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Joshua Barrett
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I always here talk about putting coins into context of why you have them ect ect ect. but I yet to see this done in professional performance. I don;t do this either. to me its like who carrys old coins? the weird that makes them jump around and change. sometimes people take a initial interest in the type of coin upon initil inspection but by the end of the routine, I think the year and type of coin is the last think on their minds. the last time I had someone heckle me about the "realness" of my coins, the other spectators started to defend me, and basically told him that what he was stating was not possible. (the person spotted a nested shell) but the magic was so strong for all the spectators they defended illusion.
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The character that I'm portraying these days comes from the world of American film noir. Thus, he carries half dollars from that era. He doesn't carry plastic credit cards, and he doesn't have a cell phone or any other electronic gear.
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On 2007-02-01 13:19, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I always here talk about putting coins into context of why you have them ect ect ect. but I yet to see this done in professional performance. ...


Time to step up to the plate.

Find what works for YOUR performing character and go with it.

:)
...to all the coins I've dropped here
Joshua Barrett
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Touche =D
Justin N. Miller
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Jonathan is right on the money. To say I have four coins here because I want to show you how they jump from my hand to your hand is boring and illogical. But if you (your character) are someone who collects coins and you "just happened to be in a coin shop recently when a strange older man came in to sell 4 coins that had belong to his departed wife and to keep them would be to painful. He told a story of how his wife always kept the coins in a velvet bag on her person, where ever the bag went, the coins followed.I was so intrigued by his story I asked if I could buy them. So he put them in the velvet bag and gave them to me. I took them home and slid them out of the bag into my hand but the moment they touched my hand... they dissapeared and I found them in the bag. By the look on your face I can tell you do not beleieve me..please hold on to this bag.......
That is why you carry four coins or whatever you carry on you at any given time.
We need a reason to bring cards,coins,notepads etc.. out in the open. If we do not have a reason then we are no better than a court jester who "is DYING" to make the king feel entertained. I do not know about you guys but I do not want to give the impression I am just a "trickster" who is gonna fool ya.
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Justin I agree with you to a certain degree. I was with you all the way up until you said, "I do not know about you guys but I do not want to give the impression I am just a "trickster" who is gonna fool ya."

I personally have never claimed to be a magician with my audiences, and when introduced as such by people who've seen me before to their friends I'm QUICK to correct. I've always considered myself just a good guy who knows a couple of really cool tricks. I fool AS I entertain. I get paid to hang out and meet people. The tricks are secondary. It's about the people with me, not the tricks. The magic is a medium that facilitates me forming new bonds with people.

Am I wrong for NOT EXPECTING my audience to believe that what I'm showing them is real, honest to goodness, magic? I believe it's a slap at their intelligence. However if they choose to believe it on their own, I certainly don't discourage it, makes my job easier.

Maybe it's a matter of preference???? Dunno......

OH and JT is correct about giving the coins a reason for being used. The line I use most often I got from Dave Neighbors, " These are Walking Liberty Half Dollars, collector coins. Actually I collected them from someone's pocket this morning. Na just kidding. Actually they were my grandfathers. He gave them to me on his deathbed.....well, actually he sold 'em to me. But, I wrote him a check for them so its all good...."
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Justin N. Miller
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I can live with that.
Tom Bartlett
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I certainly agree with Jonathan, about having motivation that make our props acceptable for our audience. Eric and Justin both gave great but different examples, which shows why, the story has to fit our own personality or character. What the spectators will accept from one, maybe unacceptable, even laughable if some one else uses it.
Justin, I do like the storyline you gave as an example. It could be used in bizarre magic, presented very mysteriously and spooky.
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Wow, thanks for all the responses. I do like the patter possibilities offered by old coins.
What about a "time travel" theme? "I'd like to take you back to the days of the old west (produce 1880s coin), south of the rio grande (change into Mexican coin?) ajnd so on using coins to "illustrate" the tale. As I said, I''m fairly new to coin work. Is there already such an effect out there?
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There are some very nice large, silver coins from Mexico called 8 Reales. The dates will run from the early 1800s to the very early 1900. They are a little larger in diameter than an U.S. silver dollar but not as thick. They have an eagle with wings spread and clutching a serpent on one side and a cap (just the cap) like Lady Liberty has on her head on the Morgan dollar. They will run from $8 to up, in most cases.
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Tom, Thanks, I'll look for one of those. When using older coins, do you polish them or just go with natural patina?
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When I put set together, four or five the same date, I will use Flitz polish on the set to make the match as much as possible, then let nature take it's course. If you carry them together all the time they will age and patina the same. If you decide you want an expanded shell to match, I’m not sure who to use. You would probably have to provide an 8 Reales to the maker because they are not that common. So when you looking for them take your time, and get an extra one or two.
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On 2007-02-01 09:25, jussy wrote:
Joshua,
You coming up to the fest this weekend?
I use Walking Liberties, Morgans, english pennies, and korean coins


Off topic here but am I missing something? I thought you pretty much quit magic...
Justin N. Miller
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PLease check out the rumors thread..it explains it all http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......6&25

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Joshua Barrett
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I got his x marks the spot for 10 bucks so I'm glad he did LOL =D I have had people start requesting to see it from hearsay
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Hi Barrett, I guess what I said before about the spectators being "amazed" with my coins would have been more acurately stated as being "intrigued" for the most part, but I have had a few that were simply amazed.

Going to the edge grip for a second, I think I had the same problem you mentioned earlier with my walking liberties and found if I relaxed my grip I had much more success. At first I had the impression you really had to grip hard when doing the edge grip, so as not to lose control of the coins. In the end I found I have better success holding them in a more relaxed grip, just enough to hold them in place, but no more than that and my edge grip has improved greatly.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
Joshua Barrett
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I also found out I got some defective remilled coins, jamies going to replace them. yeah iv notice during curl palming that the amount of pressure makes a big difference on how well it goes. I'm still working out those bugs =)
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Sorry to hear about your coins Barrett, Jamie is a good guy I am sure he will take care of that problem. I am practicing my edge work also, not an easy thing to master.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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I love the silver 1964 or older, also love english pennys.
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I also favor the silver Kennedy 1/2's. Spectators finds them interestng, nostalgic. I like size (visibility), texture, appearance. Matter of choice.
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