Mike, it's probably better to contact Peter directly. That way you'll know for sure.

His email is

peterwhitepasilks@yahoo.com

That I will do Dave. I never knew anything about them.

BTW, dove-boy isn't exaggerating about the quality of these videos. They have good information but don't expect studio quality. In fact, don't even expect you-tube quality.

Peter gave me a set of these years ago since we're friends and I think I got a little better quality but not much.

I think Andy Amyx's Video is great, if your really into dove magic you show should purchased every single dove video, their so many things to know about dove magic, you want to get all the information possible. Each Video out their teaches you different methods of training and producing birds. So I recommend getting every video on dove magic.

Speaking of dove productions....Shimada's DVD on dove magic shows some nice productions.

Andy Amyx video is GREAT!!! Have easy stuff for the beginner and Excellent for the Pro!
Thanks,
Hansel!