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Habu
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I've been reading the forums for about 3 weeks I guess, and I have been trying to read between the lines on some of the conversations.

Someone will say something on the order of: I'm working on MMBW and am having some difficulty.

The reply may be something like: Well, I like MMBW but try the effect in RCWY, it's a killer!

Now knowing that this is a specific question or request for advice, and a response from someone giving specific suggestions, I understand it was not directed at me so it is not necessary for me to understand what is being said...but I would like to know anyway being the curious cat I am.

Most of the time I'm able to decipher what the heck is going on, and other times I just shrug and move on to another topic.

Is there a code I am unaware of? I realize being new that there are a lot of common terms to the experienced folk that is just easier to abbreviate but if there is a reference that refers to what some of these mean I'd like to know.

(Actually its like watching my daughter on instant messaging sometimes)
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BrianMillerMagic
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Usually there are standard texts or dvds that are simply abbreviated for their length, such as the Royal Road to Card Magic or Michael Ammar's Easy to Master Card Miracles. Other times there are certain sleights that are abbreviated to try not to expose, such as writing DL (pm me if you don't know what this means, because this is a very common one to see around the card magic forums). As for a list of code, I don't believe there is any really other than just the commonly accepted ones that most people are used to. If you ever don't know what something is, just ask or PM the person that used it, and most people on these forums will be glad to let you know what you're missing.
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Most of the time abbreviations are used when referring to a book, dvd or even a specific move.

For instance, Royal Road to Card Magic is referred to as RRTCM for short.
Some other abbreviations used for sleights and gimmicks are done purposely as to not expose it in a fairly open forum, that is why there is another section called Secret Sessions in which you need a certain number of posts to view and participate.
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And it should be kept that way.
Lurkers (not implying that you are) browse the net, and forums like this, looking only for the secrets behind the effects that we practice hundreds and hundreds of times to get right, only to satisy their curiosity.

These acronyms (I think that is what they are called) are to make finding out the secret just a little more difficult. Just like when your daughter types ttyl, brb, lmfao etc. it is a code so that you don't know what thye are talking about.

In case you wanted to decipher sometime here is a dictionary for cyber terms...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/


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I am a Sankey addict....please, help me!

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KyleThorson
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Should we start a list of the common book/Video abbreviations? I understand not wanting to give away the names of all the slights but the book titles should be ok.

RRTCM - Royal Road To Card Magic (Book)
CC - Card Collage (5 books)
CCL - Card Collage Light (Book)
EMCM - Michael Ammar's Easy to Master Card Miracles (Video)

etc..

Kyle
KyleThorson
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Or maybe not... I see blink_inc posted while I was posting... What is the consensus for book titles?

Kyle
Dave V
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...and as always, if you have a question, just ask (PM) the author of the message. Keeping things "private" but still being able to carry on a conversation is one of the trickiest things we do here.
No trees were killed in the making of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
mark1991
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Hi there,

Don't worry too much about the abbreviations! I've been posting here for a while now and I still don't get some of them. I guess it just comes with experience - as do most things.

I wish you all the best with your magic!

Many thanks

Magical Mark Watson
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http://magicnewstelevision.com/mn/magicalmark



Magical Mark Watson - Christian magician, juggler, puppeteer, all-round entertainer and lover of Christ!
Jim Poor
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A "Café speak" glossary is not a bad idea, provided some guidlines apply to the content included and not included.
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I like the idea of a list of common book and dvd title abbreviations. I don't think there would be any harm even if lurkers could figure those out. They will not want to go find the book somewhere, buy it, and then read through it to find out a method. Unless, of course, they are actually interested in learning magic Smile
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Book titles and DVD fine. Glossary away.

Moves on the other hand opens up discussion which in turn can reveal too much or more than required. PM's are a great way to continue a discussion.
I am a Sankey addict....please, help me!

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Habu
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Quote:
On 2007-02-07 11:14, blink_inc wrote:
And it should be kept that way.
Lurkers (not implying that you are) browse the net, and forums like this, looking only for the secrets behind the effects that we practice hundreds and hundreds of times to get right, only to satisfy their curiosity.

[clipped]

My pointless post.



Hey I'm a skulker not a lurker! Smile

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Thanks for the replies now I know I wasn't silly for asking.
I understand and support the need for the 'code'.
If the coded word seems to be about a move or gimmick I will just read on understanding it is something I have yet to purchase or read in a magic book.
If it seems to be something I am worthy of knowing I will PM the author.

A glossary of book and DVD titles would be helpful however.

Thanks for making me not feel stupid...that is what I got married for!
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rikbrooks
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I'm not certain that a glossary of moves would be harmful. I don't think that a lurker would get much out of knowing that FD is French Drop. He wouldn't know what French Drop, or Classic Palm, or a bunch of stuff is.
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Google and Wikipedia have shattered the ideas that just knowing the name of an effect can't lend to knowlege of it, rikbrooks. It's amazing what's on the public forums.
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For me, it is also a matter of convenience. I would hate to have to write

Michael Ammar's Easy to Master Card Miracles

a couple of times in my mail.

Andy
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KyleThorson
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Sounds like people think would be useful to have a Book/Video acronym glossary. should we just enter them here or create a new topic to they will be found easier? Maybe in a different forum? We can consolidate them every so often... is there a way to edit a old post so the original can be updated with the latest list?

So far we have:

RRTCM - Royal Road To Card Magic [Jean Hugard and Frederick Braue] (Book)
CC - Card Collage [Robert Giobbi] (5 books)
CCL - Card Collage Light by [Robert Giobbi] (Book)
EMCM - Easy to Master Card Miracles [Michael Ammar] (Video)
AoA - Art of Astonishment [Paul Harris] (3 books)

Anyone have anymore?

Kyle
Mark Wilden
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We might as well add the acronyms for individual tricks, moves, and devices. In the brief time I've been here I've seen DL, TT, OOTW, OOTU, ACR, and probably others.
GeorgeG
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Abbreviations to titles of DVDs, books, or tricks don't reveal their contents nor their secrets, so I don't see the danger there to those without knowledge. Many seriously into magic don't keep up with everything, so these abbreviations often are lost to them, too. Even using words like shell vs "[" will not reveal what the true nature of its meaning is to "lurkers" unless you know some basic magic. Besides, aren't "lurkers" potential new magic enthusiasts and are we deterring these new people from this wonderful hobby/profession by being too secretive.
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Just so you know, its COLLEGE, not collage. Unfortunately, this is something a spell checker will not catch because collage is a legitimate word.
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KyleThorson
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Yes, I noticed that as soon as I posted it (the second time!) and I haven't found a way to edit the old posts yet to fix it.

[EDIT] FYI, you can edit a post but only for 30 minutes.... the older posts can not be modified... [/EDIT]

Kyle
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