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fless
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On the signed card in wallet routine, as described in Mark Wilson’s complete course:
I will perform this for a _very_ analytical spec and I have a little problem with one part in Wilson’s routine: After selecting the card, the spec is supposed to sign the card, then the prediction card is removed from the wallet and then the prediction card and spec’s card are turned face up. My problem is with the signing of the spec’s card: the signing does not seem to serve any purpose, and I’m afraid my spec will start the logical chain here, concluding that the pen is a vital part of the effect and so on...

My question: I consider having the spec, after signing, return her card to the deck, shuffle it and then go through the deck for the card. Will this add to mystery or will it reduce the effect?
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I think it won't add to the mystery, as their just shuffling the deck then taking their card back out. Try thinking of adding some other routine to make there a point of signing the card.

There is a reason why they're signing their card. It's because you signed your 'prediction card' and they signed their 'chosen' card. That doesn't really make sense, but it makes things different.

People might say in the stories talking about you, "And I even signed the card, too!". Or it will misdirect them from guessing what you actually did.

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Why not do the trick for a less analytical viewer ?
I would not do any trick for the first time to someone more interested in the method than the magic or the fun !

Come to that - I would not show my magic to someone only interested in catching me out, or guessing the method. (and I know that's not what you wrote.)
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I don't do this effect, so I'm no expert. I do another effect where putting a pen away *is* my cover and I never have a problem with that. Just make sure that the pen comes out of and then back into the same pocket. I think if you treat the pen with as little regard as possible there should be no problem. Consider two laymen discussion the effect afterwords:

A. "That was so strange!"
B. "Yeah,wonder how he did it!?! Maybe he hid the card in his sleeve?"
A. "what a sec... he had me sign the card and THEN HE PUT THE PEN AWAY!"
B. "That's gotta be it!"

Doesn't ring true to me...
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Was there another trick similar to this or is this the trick where you have the spectator select a card, then put it on top of the deck, then you remove your wallet and pen, have the spectator sign his card, then you pull out of your wallet the same card as his?
Mark Wilden
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PBiddy - that's the trick.

Eddie - those are wise words. As a rank beginner, I'm coming to the painful conclusion that there are some people you just shouldn't show tricks to. It's no disgrace to not accept the challenge of fooling them.

///ark
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There really is no reason to have the spectator sign the card here. Maybe, since they did not see the card they selected, they can at least keep track of it since you had them sign it?
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Thx for your views. However, I really like the challenge from an anlytical viewer. Can't help it, but that's the way I work as a person. Trying to analyze the trick is fun for lots of specs, and I don't have a problem with that.
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