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I believe it was the inventor, Benjamin Franklin who used to do this. He would gather some friends around a stream, and then he would walk up stream and then change the stream current. The story was a little vague but I think this was how it went. It then stated that it was accomplished by a gimmicked walking stick that was capable of releases OIL. In the same book they were saying how sailors used to pour buckets of OIL overboard in order to calm down the arduous currents of the ocean. I haven't experimented out all with this idea but it seems like some cool things may arise from this. Can anybody tell me anymore about this or can anyone come up with some creative ideas?


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I think that was the spin given out after the Exxon Valdiz Oil Spill - they were trying to calm the dangerous ocean currents by dumping all that oil in the water. The killing of plants and animals was unfortunate collateral damage.
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No the stories were about shippers like in the story Moby Dick. It wasn't done by Black oil; it was more or less like vegetable oil.

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If it was in Moby Dick, it sure wasn't vegetable oil! Poor Moby!

Anyway, I'm just messing with you. Here's an idea. Tell your story about Ben Franklin, true or not (he's dead and can't complain). Then offer to demonstrate with a glass of water. Very slowly let the water pour out of the glass into a bowl. The snap your fingers and the water flows the other way, from the bowl back up to the glass. At the finish, the glass is full again and the bowl is empty.

That's in Hero's Advanced Hydraulics.
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Wha-a-whahaaat. That sounds Amazing! but I think your still just messing around. If your not where can I find this "Hero's Advanced Hydraulics".

And that's not exactly what I mean by change currents. I think it more or less like the waves in the current slowed down. Something where waves are moving in a pond, you then stick your walking stick into the water and then the waves just stop or just slow down. I'll try to get the book again, it was a really old book I found at my local library.

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On 2007-02-14 20:56, Spellbinder wrote:
I think that was the spin given out after the Exxon Valdiz Oil Spill - they were trying to calm the dangerous ocean currents by dumping all that oil in the water. The killing of plants and animals was unfortunate collateral damage.

We are already in enough trouble with global warming. Let's not experiment with oil in streams. Stick to glasses of water. The Valdiz spill is still killing animals years and years later and I still boycott Exxon.

Scattered Dream, I would like to see what that old magic book does say regarding this trick. Keep this in mind: In the really old books, they may have printed some things that were a bit "amiss" just to throw off the layperson who happened to chance upon one of these forbidden volumes.
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On 2007-02-27 17:01, Autumn Morning Star wrote:
Scattered Dream, I would like to see what that old magic book does say regarding this trick. Keep this in mind: In the really old books, they may have printed some things that were a bit "amiss" just to throw off the layperson who happened to chance upon one of these forbidden volumes.


Autumn,

I don't think he got this from a magic book. I have heard this story many times, it may even be told in Franklins' autobiography.

Supposedly Franklin would calm a small stream by waving his walking stick over it. He also made observations regarding oil on the seas. Which he noted when he observed cooks onboard ship dumping barrels of oil overboard.
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Thanks, Vandy.
Well, 'shiver me timbers' you are right about oil and water and good old Ben! Here is a link: http://www1.umn.edu/ships/words/avogadro.htm

Just remember: "You don't need a pond. For a small-scale version of Franklin's experiments, just use a plastic petri dish and samples of different oils and detergents." Oil kills fish, so be kind to what is left of our environment. Thanks,
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Thanks for the link Autumn, that's an interesting idea with oil and water. Incidentally, I really appreciate your environmental awareness Smile

Scattered Dream, the article in that link sounds like it might explain the origins of the Franklin story you talk about.
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What's the explanation for that? ie, Why does water so utterly anhilate oil's surface tension as to make it spread to the thinness of a single molecule? (Is it something about the polar nature of water molecules attracting the oil molecules more than the oil molecules can attract each other?)

Why does this result in a calming of the water?
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