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MyTurnPlzAA Loyal user NC 288 Posts |
Dear All,
Are there any dvd's - videos (pal) that I can learn this sleight. regards James |
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shanla Loyal user Japan, Tokyo 285 Posts |
Richard Kaufman, Gary Ouellet and Ken Krenzel have their own videos of Pass.
In my opinion, this sleight may be learned from books, not only from videos.
http://www.cardcoinmagic.com
https://www.youtube.com/user/tomosanb?feature=mhee Strive to enter in by the narrow door. |
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MyTurnPlzAA Loyal user NC 288 Posts |
where do u get the videos from what sites
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thehawk Inner circle 2275 Posts |
Brad Burt and Jay Sankey have Videos out on the pass too. Brad's is completely devoted to th pass.
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MyTurnPlzAA Loyal user NC 288 Posts |
Where do you get the videos from?
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shanla Loyal user Japan, Tokyo 285 Posts |
Richard Kaufman's and Gary Ouellet's videos are available from Hank Lee's. Krenzel's and Brad Burt's are seen on the L&L Publishing catalogue. But, I'm not sure if Pal videos are available.
http://www.cardcoinmagic.com
https://www.youtube.com/user/tomosanb?feature=mhee Strive to enter in by the narrow door. |
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happytrickster New user UK 47 Posts |
I've heard on good authority that Richard Kaufman's "On the Pass" should be available in DVD format sometime during February 2003. Contact http://www.mymagic.com for details as they'll be releasing it.
If you want to see examples of lots of different Passes being performed (as well as many other sleights) check out the following page: http://www.wahlers.co.uk/sleights.html HappyTrickster |
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ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
I think the pass is a sleight you need to SEE done well to get the idea of what it should look like. Be that from someone in person or on tape. I asked a guy at a magic shop to show me what it was and it looked horrible. Then I bought Kaufman's tape and I thought it was the coolest thing I had ever seen. I spent a year working on it doing it 100 times (or more) a day and it was time well spent. People will tell you you don't need to know it, that a double-undercut or shuffle control is just as good. I disagree. A pass looks SO fair. You put the card in the middle, and that's that. Unlike other methods where you put the card in the middle and start cutting and shuffling. If I was a layman I wouldn't have a hard time figuring out "something" was being done then. Shuffles and cuts obviously have their place though, and I use many myself. But when the opportunity arises in a routine where I can do a pass it has an extremely clean, uncluttered look to it.
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Jim Robinson Loyal user 260 Posts |
Ixnay: "I think the pass is a sleight you need to SEE done well to get the idea of what it should look like." and "it has an extremely clean, uncluttered look to it."
Why do you need to see what 'nothing' looks like? That's what the pass should look like. That's what it "looks" like when Don England does it and that is what the spectators should perceive - nothing. Also, Ixnay, you at least imply that you are using the pass for a single card control. This is a misuse of the pass, you are moving fifty-some cards when all you intend to move is one. How 'bout a sidesteal? Sure, learning the Pass shouldn't be avoided by anyone wanting to do serious card work. But learning when to use it shouldn't be avoided either.
Robinson.
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious.... He to who this emotion is a stranger ... is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." Albert Einstein |
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Otis Day Regular user Green Bay, WI 150 Posts |
MyTurnPizza...A good search engine will stop you from having to ask questions like, "where Can I get those videos" and "where can I find that book". Just go to Yahoo or Google or any magic site and type the video names with who wrote it and you will find it. That's what search engines are for. It's much faster than waiting for someone to post a reply here.
Richard Kaufmans "On the Pass" video helped me tremendously in learning the move. It is highly suggested. |
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Stick Man Regular user UK 178 Posts |
http://www.ellusionist.com have a vid dedicated to the pass. not many people like the sit but its what started me off in magic and that's why i like it.
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sbays Inner circle Burbank, CA 1065 Posts |
Robinson67: "Why do you need to see what 'nothing' looks like? That's what the pass should look like. That's what it "looks" like when Don England does it and that is what the spectators should perceive - nothing."
Hmmm... that's the idea isn't? No sleight is meant to be seen, and if done correctly at the right moment it will not be seen. However, actually seeing how it is supposed to look, even if that entails seeing nothing, is invaluable. The student then knows what the illusion looks like and has something to strive for. When he gets his sleight to look like that, then he knows he is ready for performance. Until then, keep practicing.
"Opportunity may only knock once, but temptation leans on the doorbell."
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Vincenzo Loyal user Canada 215 Posts |
I was never able to the pass properly, and I don't think It's really affected my magic.
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Bigmagictrout New user Quebec, Canada 46 Posts |
It depends. If you can do the pass almost invisibly, it's more magical than a double undercut / jog shuffle. But, like robinson67 said, ""But learning when to use it shouldn't be avoided either. ""
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Garrett Nelson Special user 644 Posts |
In my humble opinion the pass is one of the few things in card magic where it is very advantageous to learn it from personal instruction or a video rather than a book. It is one of those things that is much easier to comprehend from a visual description rather than a written one.
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Geoff Weber Inner circle Washington DC 1384 Posts |
Brad Burt's video was pretty helpful for me. My turnover pass is fairly invisible...
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stevehw Veteran user Collinsville, Mississippi 303 Posts |
Several months ago I was looking for a good video on the pass, but made the mistake of ordering Ken Krenzel's Pass video as a beginner supplement to Card College.
This is a great video if you want to see the different variations of the pass done very well. And Ken is a master. But I should have started with one of the videos recommended above. So now I am looking at Richard Kaufman's and Brad Burt's videos. These sound like they will be much better to begin with, but I will still have Ken Krenzel's video as an additional supplement. Steve |
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ixnay66 Inner circle Denver 1525 Posts |
So you're saying a student trying to learn an invisible sleight can learn NOTHING knowing the finger movements yet seeing a sleight done properly even if it's invisible? Last time I checked, most people used the pass to control one card. And seeing as how it IS invisible, I don't think it matters if you move 26, 38, or even 51 cards IF IT'S DECEPTIVE. Simply because I say I do the pass doesn't mean I don't do a side steal. I do that as well. Same goes for shuffle controls and double undercuts. Are you implying I don't know when NOT to use them? I would like to think by my pointing out the fact that I DO use controls other then the pass would pretty much state that, albeit, in a round about way. You know what they say about "Assuming..."
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Eddy Special user Manchester 582 Posts |
I feel in love with the pass from the very beginning. I was new to magic (12 mths ago) and my mate lent me a couple of vids .One of which was "On the Pass". I could not believe what I was seeing. From that momnet on, till present I practised it extensively. I am still not totally happy with it, but I have learnt quite a few different ones. Float pass-Lennart Green 1. Hollingworth Pass - DRD. Turnoverless pass - Apoc 3. and Ouellets "The Pass". I know what they all have to offer and now it is down to je to go and practice and get the results I want. Be warnded once you start to learn the Pas it will take a hell of a long time to get the real feel of it. Don't use it unless you are 100% hapopy with it, use a mirror or better still a cam corderm, and look from every angle.
La magie, c'est ma vie
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manix Loyal user 242 Posts |
The pass is one of those moves that is really great fun to just sit down and practice for months! What seems a totally rediculous concept can be refined into a thing of technical wonder.
While it certainly can be done so that it can't be seen by somebody looking at your hands, I don't believe this is how the move is most often used. A slow, deliberate pass can be imperceptible when combined with appropriate misdirection. This is a move I love to work on! If you're interested you can have a look at my efforts: http://81.6.252.184/vids.htm |
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