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PMVIVA
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Hi fellows I've been playing around with this David Roth's effect and I find it quite difficult to false transfer the coins in to the left hand retaining them into edge grip and for me it does not look natural, have anyone tried to perform this effect but instead of disappearing the coins retaining them into edge grip, instead using the downs palm?

I think the hand will look natural and empty and is quite easy to vanish a coin reatining it on the downs palm.

What do you think about it?

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Pablo
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Jonathan Townsend
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Using Downs' Palm for Roth's routine has been tried and even published.

I was sorry to see a DP handling for my "Coin go-return" appear shortly after the item hit print.

Yes it can work BUT it requires much more work to move the coins all the way into DP as opposed to staying at the fingertips as when using EG.

Really.

I suspect David Roth explored all this back in the very early 1970s.
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Mano
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Mago68,

I have been doing hanging coin in DP for about 3 years, and I think it is the way to go; I never liked and never performed hanging coins Dave Roth's way, I just never liked it and I still don't like it,:), to me it does not look good to turn the hand that way to get the coin in that disire position, so I use a move I learn from watching Gary K's hanging coins, to get the coin in DP without having to turn the wrist, and to me it is actually easier than the way Dave R does it; and you are right about the hand looking natural and empty.

Pablo, keep doing it that way, it will be the best way for you when you get it down,


Mano.

P.S have fun practising.
rutabaga
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Mano,

Any chance of posting a performance video?
Mano
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Rutabaga,

I would love to, I have well over 50 original coins routines, but I do not have a camera at this point and I do not know how to put them on the web, I wish I had a friend who could help me with that and to help me open a webside, I really want to show what I can do with coins and close up magic in general.

Mano.
Fingers
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I would like to see that too Mano. I have doing "Hanging Coins" the Roth way for a good while, but I am open mimded to other methods.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
tedski
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Take a look at some of Kainoa's techniques in Coins on Edge - pendulum hanging coins is a great alternative in between Roth's edge grip and Downs palm.
Fingers
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Hi tedski, actually I have been working with Kainoa's "Coins on Edge" daily for a while now and I love his techniques. I agree with your sentiments too. Its a lot of work, but very satisfying when you can accomplish some of the methods he prescribes.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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I am lucky to have seen some of Mano's original work. mMan this guy....mi hermano is something else. A well kept secret indeed. Mano, can't wait to see whatts new.

Back to the dp and Hanging coins....

I use both depending on the size of the coins. If the size is just right and I am performing for some magician friends I use diff palm within the same effect. It was designed (The Original) to use the edge grip for a reason. With all the available palm out there, Mr. Roth probably saw a strength in that sleight. As I have said , it depends on the size of the coins. Its probably dependent on the hand size and structure of the magician. I would stick with what works smoothest for me as well as what looks and feel natural to me.

Rannie
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