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MJ Marrs
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Hi Paisa, the envelopes don't really enhance the effect from a technical viewpoint, only an aesthetic one. I have a wallet set up with KK with no envelopes, and a different wallet (Kenton's official KK wallet) with the small black envelopes, and I have not seen any difference. In fact, Kenton says that he mostly uses cards without envelopes. Aesthetically and artistically, however, I prefer using the little black envelopes since they add a layer of mystery even though the reactions are the same. I hope this helps.
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I'm using an ESPionage Wallet. It has only 6 hidden pocket, so I put two cards on every pocket (you can easily extract only one of them) and the last four are "loose" on main "reverse" pocket divided by a bill.

For me it's working very well.
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So guys, what do you do when spectator asks to examine the wallet? or says "theres more than one card"... do you just say in a smart way"yep I definetely have 52 cards in this wallet" or what do you guys say?
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On 2013-01-23 00:00, magicman491 wrote:
So guys, what do you do when spectator asks to examine the wallet? or says "theres more than one card"... do you just say in a smart way"yep I definetely have 52 cards in this wallet" or what do you guys say?
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Haven't had that come up yet. I use Tony Curtis's KK wallet, which allows for a really clean display. You openly take the card out of the bill compartment - in a small envelope if you so choose - and can then pull the bills most of the way out, spread open the wallet and clearly show the inside of the compartment to be empty. I don't say anything when I do that - it's just a quick flash, but a pretty powerful convincer. There's nothing to see in the credit card slots. It would be hard to imagine that there was one extra card in the wallet, let alone most of a deck.

But you know someone will probably say that anyway, eventually. Your response sounds fine, if you say it with a smile. Here are some other suggestions:

- Sure, but you can't look at the other 51 wallets I have stashed on my body.

- Certainly, after you let me dig through your purse.

- I've been carrying this in my back pocket for four years. Do you still want to touch it?

- Sorry, I don't let anyone into my wallet until the third date.

Or, if you have something like Tony's wallet, meet them halfway and start pulling out credit cards, library cards etc. out of the slots, then give another flash of the bill compartment with the cash and ATM receipts pulled partially out. There, they just had a good look at your wallet.

Or go into another effect using something you pull from the wallet, such as a bill, or Kioku or Sanctum.
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magicman491
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Can you use tony kk wallet as an everyday wallet?
Russell Davidson
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I never use a wallet. Just the 4 pockets of my jacket.
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On 2013-01-23 02:51, magicman491 wrote:
Can you use tony kk wallet as an everyday wallet?


Most definitely. In fact, it makes a particularly nice everyday wallet, because there's plenty of room for bills and lots of pockets to keep your credit cards and ID cards separated.
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I've been working on a patter that really covers the OBO well... Basically it only works when I use a member of the opposite sex, but I start off saying that we all know men and women think slightly differently, and I want to try and see if this is in fact the case or not.

I run through KK then, and whatever card they choose I proclaim as being the card that was in my wallet, even if it's OBO. I go for a big loud announcement that I got it right as I pull out the card. Naturally, if it's a DH then that's the reveal and I can say that proves conclusively that men and women don't necessarily think differently, and the notion that they do is just an urban myth. If it's OBO, I don't dumb down the proclamation, and I don't look at the card as I produce it. I wait for a second for them to pull me up that it's wrong, and then I say "okay - so men and women do think differently... We all know that - and I knew that, and that's why on the back..."
Tony Curtis
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Thanks guy's and I have a few Kolossal Killer's in stock.

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MrBukey
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Ordered some envelopes from you yesterday Tony. Smile
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I cannot recommend enough Kenton's original kolossal killer. It is just so much better than any other versions I know.
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I think there are much better ways to the same basic effect. See some of Derren Brown's mentalism card work for one example.

But given that, here's how I used to do it:

In separate wallet compartments: 3,5,7, 9, Jack and King of hearts. Nothing needs to be written on the back of the cards!

Why not?

Because the presentation foreshadows the way you're going to pull off your out:

You have introduced the effect in this way: "When I was younger I was very bright
and I always wanted to be 'one step ahead' of everyone. I guess I'm still that way--I like to be 'one step ahead' of everyone."

You equivoque to hearts (Larry Becker's handling is fun and easy), spec names his card, you take the card out of the wallet, and hold it with its normal back to the audience.

IF IT'S A DIRECT HIT:

"Ah, the five of hearts? I don't like to brag, but it's strange: I guess I've stayed one step ahead again! I had that exact card in my wallet all along!"

IF IT'S NOT A DIRECT HIT:

"Yes I told you I like to stay 'one step ahead'--I just can't seem to help myself. Your card was the four of hearts? And one step ahead of the four is (turning the card over) the five of hearts!"

Why you might like this version:

1) The backs of the cards are clean, and can be given to the spec to examine no matter what happens.
2) Just hiding six cards is easy in any normal wallet.
2) In the original, having an alternate ending on the back of the card for the "miss" ending is going to be suspicious to some specs.
3) The "one step ahead" story foreshadows the out, making the ending logical. Unlike in the original, it seems as if you knew this was going to happen from the beginning.
4) By taking out the card cleanly and putting it face down on a table, you can easily put your wallet away. Once you make the revelation you can easily bring out a duplicate wallet if so inclined and put the card back in, "forgetting" the wallet for a moment on the table for the suspicious ones.
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