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teejay Inner circle Liverpool, UK 1831 Posts |
I have the Invisible Gemstones book and think it is brilliant
The descriptions and posts so far about the Invisible Tarot are very vague Is it as good as or perhaps better than IG? How many pages does it have? To what extent do you have to learn the Major Arcana? Do you have to know the names of them, the numbers, and/or the meanings? How do you get past the stumbling block that none of the people being 'read' have a knowledge of the Major Arcana? Does the book cover this problem? Is it a problem? In IG you are asking people to do something simple. The Major Arcana is not so simple I realize that I am asking a lot of questions but I want to buy this and would like a bit more info PM if necessary Cheers TJ |
Malchat Special user The Kingdom of Croiset and Wonder 885 Posts |
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On 2007-02-24 05:22, teejay wrote: Not necessarily better, the IG remains brilliant... But IT might simply suit your personal style better, or resonate more with certain sitters. The IG is easier to get into if you're new to readings. Quote:
How many pages does it have? I don't have it with me, but I think it's about 30 pages. Quote:
To what extent do you have to learn the Major Arcana? Do you have to know the names of them, the numbers, and/or the meanings? You have to know their names, numbers, and most importantly their imagery; it helps to know the meanings but it's not necessary, the booklet teaches you how to work with each card. Quote:
How do you get past the stumbling block that none of the people being 'read' I'm not sure I can explain this without giving away the key to Enrique's idea. Let me just assure you that it's not a stumbling block. As long as you can guide people to use their imagination, they don't need any prior knowledge of the cards. And yes, it's covered in the book. Quote:
Is it a problem? In IG you are asking people to do something simple. The Major Arcana is not so simple I think the difficulty for the sitter is the same. If you can put them at ease and have them talk about what they see with their mind's eye, you're set. The only small point of criticism I have with the IT booklet is that the instructions aren't as clearly laid out as those in the IG - the book teaches by example, not step-by-step instruction. I'm not sure how accesible it would be if you just buy the IT manuscript without knowledge of the IG. Although this is not a magic trick by any stretch, the IT can produce a small moment of astonishment if you combine it with real cards (reference Enrique's Act of Imagination or Greg Arce 'Six Degrees of Separation' in Psychological Subtleties 2 to see how that might work.) This gives it a small edge over the IG for me.
“You are what you pretend to be.”
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teejay Inner circle Liverpool, UK 1831 Posts |
Hi Malchat
Terrific reply as usual Thanks for your input Cheers TJ |
teejay Inner circle Liverpool, UK 1831 Posts |
Hi Malchat
Got the book now It's fantastic Thanks for the advice TJ |
Malchat Special user The Kingdom of Croiset and Wonder 885 Posts |
You're welcome TJ... knew you'd like it.
“You are what you pretend to be.”
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Bill Cushman Inner circle Florida 2876 Posts |
Enrique is freaky smart and creative. As little attraction as Tarot has held for me, I was ready to commit the necessary to memory this method is so good.
It is like Enrique has found a way to systemize something that tends to defy being systemized. While the Tarot is a wonderful vehicle for this, the process he has defined in T.I.T. goes far beyond Tarot. Enrique provided me a link to study what I needed to and I intended to use it. I still may. But right now, I'm working on applying the process to other instruments that evoke imagery and metaphor that are more familiar to me. Distilling the system as he has is part of what is really striking about this achivement. Another part is a peek into Enrique's unique world. His manner of using the Tarot is very appealing to the psychologist in me. Last (for me, not for The Invisible Tarot), is what a great guide this is to learning how to work with symbols and metaphor. I'll take it even further and this is what I was referring to in the second paragraph above; this is a great guide to learning how to work with the subconcious. |
Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Hi Bill,
You mean like Rorschach inkblots ? I agree with you - anything that evokes imagery (rich) can be used with this method. It really ties into some psychological/psychoanalytic principles - so I can attest it has a good foundation in theory and practice. One could even adapt it to trading cards of Superheroes.....
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Bill Cushman Inner circle Florida 2876 Posts |
I was thinking T.A.T. Then it occured to me to use photos I find evocative. Not sure yet. Whatever we choose will tell a lot about us, Supershrink !
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
I give a talk on images, impressions, perception, creativity, and imagination using droodles. All I need is a dry erase pen and a whiteboard.
I also have a set of 50 that I use for readings. Perhaps someday you will get to read a little about it. Don't tell anyone. |
teejay Inner circle Liverpool, UK 1831 Posts |
Invisible Tarot is GREAT
Some people will find Gemstones even better because you can learn it more quickly Don't miss either (you get a discount if you buy both together) TJ |
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