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shawn popp Veteran user Denver 313 Posts |
Just received the latest Magic Magazine with a the entire Talk About Trick section devoted to Luke Jermay. I must admit I was disappointed to see the Touching On Hoy effect published. The same routine I purchased as a limited edition CD release from Luke at the Mindvention in 2005. Anyone else bummed about this?
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
I do not have the magazine, but if what you say is true, lame!
Showing my own Coral Fangs . . . J.
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Michael Maven New user 9 Posts |
The next Magic Magazine will contain Instant Memory,Luke's great card memory routine-previously published in 'The Bigger Three' ;D
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Magical Dimensions Inner circle 5001 Posts |
MAN, That really is not RIGHT!I really like this effect.
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
In my opinion this is a highly unethical thing to do.
(Giving away for free effects/presentations others have paid you for). I have never purchased one thing from Jermay and I see no reason that would ever change. However I know many guys who have. And since I have offered my work for sale in limited numbers I would never consider doing such a thing to those who purchased my work. Just cannot imagine spitting on those who paid for the information and in my opinion that is what the cat is doing. (Possibly I am mistaken and will say sorry if I am). But reading what has been posted thus far I say some fellas are feeling spittle on their faces. -Jack Click here to view attached image.
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Richie Dagger Loyal user Tucson, AZ 267 Posts |
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On 2007-02-27 16:08, Michael Maven wrote: If this is a joke, it's hilarious. If it's true, it's hilarious..but *** up. |
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
This is Michael Maven's lame idea of a joke.
Luke has asked me to reply on his behalf, since he's not near his computer, and to say that the ONLY place that the Instant Memory routine will appear is in The Bigger Three manuscript, and certainly never in a Magic magazine. - entity
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
And what about the other?
Good of you to respond for him since he knew what was being written but could not respond. Also why should any of these guys trust that answer. He sold out the other effect it looks like. (Since you did not mention it) J ack
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
I bought the Coral Fang specifically for Touching on Hoy. I'm not feeling spit on, I just don't really understand it . . . then again, I don't need to.
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
And why not?
-J ack
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
Luke only knows about this thread because I've contacted him for his response.
I am a bit ticked off that he would publish Touching on Hoy in a magic magazine, especially just a couple of years after releasing it in The Coral Fang. I've made my thoughts on this clear to Luke, and I'd suggest that any others who paid full price for the original and feel put out, do the same. - entity
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
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On 2007-02-27 18:23, Jim-Callahan wrote: It's obvious that what's done is done. It doesn't make any sense for me to worry more about it. It's not going to change anything, so I don't need to understand it, although I do not agree with it. I will also send a message. Regards, J.
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
But it does change things I say.
Why buy from him if he will give what you pay for to magicians for free but not to you? (Looks like the fella is playing y'all for suckers) Very questionable ehtics or is that not the thing the riles ya J? J ack PS. I am just wondering why you guys put up with this crap. Not trying to start a fight but if he had taken my cash and done such a thing I would be plenty mad. H.O.A-X
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Top Hat Inner circle We peed on you! 1077 Posts |
Why all the fuss over such a ridiculous routine? You talk about it as if it is some kind of miracle, but I know this routine and its method from a "lecture" by Jermay and it's "oh yeah, OK". Overhyped, in my opinion.
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
Ok Hat boy let see if I can dumb this down for ya.
These cats paid for it and now it is given away. So why did they pay for it? It was a waste of cash it was and is unethical in my opinion. J ack H.O.A._X
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Top Hat,
Perhaps you have not used the routine? It was a regular part of my show. It plays just like it read, and was very effective for me. Jim, I'm saying, there is no use crying over spilled milk. What's done is done, I can only do my own small part to help prevent this in the future. Yeah, it sucks. J.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
P.S.
This won't keep me from using it, of course. I got a few good years out of it before Luke decided to give it away via Magic Magazine. Unethical? Perhaps. It really is not for me to say. Does it affect me? Very little, if at all. j.
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Jim-Callahan V.I.P. 5018 Posts |
So are you saying if you knew he would be giving the stuff away that you were going to use you would have paid for it?
J ack H.O.A-X Click here to view attached image.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
No, that's not what I'm saying.
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Chris Jones Elite user 468 Posts |
Well I have to point out that the CD sold at MindVention on this effect also contains a whole bunch of information that IS NOT in the magazine as well as a whole bunch of different effects using the method. It also featured "binus" video files.
Luke also pointed out that it would be printed else where in the future but not as a whole collection as it was on the CD. Jack for someone who has actually not bought a book you talk a lot. I suggest you look into your facts before you comment. I have not bought your products and hence would not be commenting on them. What was "paid" for was not what is given away in magic magazine - it is rather only a small part of what was on the CD and in The Coral Fang. A very small part of it. So in short I am glad I bough the CD on the effect a number of years ago as I got all the bonus material not in magic magazine. Since the effects in magic magazine were all drawn from various books of Jermay maybe it was simply a "sampler" of his material. Consdiering how much is left out of the explainations then I am happy to have bought the book. |
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