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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
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On 2009-11-01 18:29, Mary Mowder wrote: Good luck on your musical search and remember, unless you're going to use royalty free music, please do the right thing and pay the appropriate user fees when using someone else's music. |
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Mary Mowder Inner circle Sacramento / Elk Grove, CA 3659 Posts |
Thanks to all for the advice.
RJE - You're right! I am a professional so I am using royalty free music for my act. I have several disks from White, Jay Scott Berry etc...I also use the web to search. It takes hours to find one song that is compatible and then to "fix" it in Garage Band on my Mac. I've often wished I could use popular songs.To whom does one pay the user fee. It's probably out of my range as far as price goes. I'm new here so I'm worried about wandering off topic. Thanks again for the input. I'm really enjoying the Café. -Mary Mowder |
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eb02 Special user 680 Posts |
If any one is interesting I have for sale the version sold at Hocus Pocus and call naked umbrella. This is a well made mutilated parasol set.
PM if interesting.
Eran Blizovsky
www.magic4business.net |
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vincentmagic New user 37 Posts |
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On 2007-03-07 08:42, Zazz wrote: I just bought the Abbott's mutilated Parasol. It cost me over $510.00 with shipping. I was disappointed. I thought it would look like in the youtube videos. It does not. I got the package in a thin cardboard box. I openned it and when I opened the bag with the hankies inside, there were small scrunched up hankies that were tiny, out of shape and looked nothing like the ones in the video. When I opened the Umbrella, black paint chips fell all over the place. Then I noticed a white patch on the top of the umbrella. I had to re-paint the column and the top of the umbrella. I also noticed that you have to hold the umbrella and open or it does not stay open on it's own. Beware. When it comes to Abbott's, what you see is not what you get. The ones in the youtube videos are the olds ones that they used to sell but do not sell anymore. Buyers beware. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
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On 2011-03-03 17:32, vincentmagic wrote: I suggest you take up your concerns with Abbott's, the Café cannot resolve your purchase concerns. As with everything now-a-days, I do not believe Abbott's makes their Multilated Parsaol themselves. It is made in Italy I think. You concern of the small hanks, what size did you get, did you measure them? You have not given a size. As far as whit on the tip, that is what is shown in one of the videos on the site. That is more of a personal choice, I do not see how that affects the working of the trick. A little paint chipped off, I do not see how this is any concern as the audience never sees the staff or stem of the umbrella. It looks like the metal was not completely cleaned before painting. What this Multilated Parasol has over others it the ability to push the umbrella from either end into the tube of newspaper. Also the umbrella is wrapped in the paper with both ends sticking out of the newspaper. That is not a feature of any other umbrella on the market. It is all about the ease of working in a show act. After you learn the routine and perform the effect a few times, why not let us know how it went. That is the most important feature of the apparatus. |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Abbott's does make their own parasol. Some of the silks may be imported. But they definitely make their own parasols. When the source for ribs went out of business in this country, Greg had to go overseas to find a new source. That is why the ribs are just a little longer.
Do contact Greg and I am sure he will make it right with you. He cannot help you if you do not tell him. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
The ribs are ALWAYS an issue with a good quality mutilated parasol. Thinner ribs means more room for a heavier grade of silk. Thicker ribs mean less room for heavier grades of silk, so Abbott's is now using diamond-cut silks. The plus side is that the heavier ribs mean that the parasol holds up better.
I switched my diamond-cut silks to a set I bought from Jay Scott Berry...I like them better....they are fuller-looking which means more color when you twirl the silk. Any problems with an Abbott's purchase should be discussed with Greg Bordner. Greg has always given me great customer service and has stood behind the props I have bought from them. The mutilated parasol is a standard in my school assembly shows, kid shows, and platform act. |
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vincentmagic New user 37 Posts |
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On 2007-03-07 08:42, Zazz wrote: I have just bought Abbott's Mutilated parasol. Here is an honest review of it. Having seen and heard about how good it is, I went and paid a great deal of money for one. Here is my honest costly experience. I received a cardboard box. I opened it and saw a parasol and bag. Inside the bag were small scrunched up hankies which looked about 9 inchs and were cut in half. Nothing like the hankies in the videos I saw of the trick on the web. Then I opened my parasol. Black paint chips fell all over the floor. Also, I noticed a white patch where the red material should have been. I had to re-paint the top and column. Also, the parasol did not stay open. I had to hold it open too. I also had to repair the inside of the bag which had a hole in it. I expected more for a price tag including shipping of over $500.00. I was greatly dissappointed especially when I asked Abbott's to carefully check my parasol before sending it to me. They did not. I now have to replace the hankies which are unsatisfactory. The ones on youtube were the mutilated parasols they used to sell but no longer do. BUYERS BEWARE. What you see on the web is not what you will get. Youre truthfully and truly, Vincent. |
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vincentmagic New user 37 Posts |
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On 2011-03-03 18:19, wmhegbli wrote: Everyone has a right to speak the truth and you cannot tell someone they are not allowed to speak and share their experiences. Maybe you think you are the only person with the right opinion, but everyone is equal here and has the right to speak up. I have the right to speak the truth and nobody is going to tell me otherwise sir. |
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
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On 2009-09-27 03:43, videoman wrote: Someone wrote me recently to ask for permission to use my routine. If I didn't intend to let others use it, I would never have described it here, so naturally I said "yes." Then I saw the old thread back up again and realized I hadn't answered videoman's question about why the umbrella was wet every night. As it happened, I did this trick following an MC who used a squirting flower gag. He couldn't squirt the audience without getting in trouble with the management, so we worked out that he would give a few squirts in their direction, introduce me and then let me have it when I came out. I opened my black umbrella and fought him off with a squirt gun. The audience enjoyed the little feud between the "little squirt" and the "old fogie" but that was how my umbrella got wet every night, with no rain to speak of.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
How does the new Abbott's Mutilated Parasol compare to the new one? Will it lock in the open position?
Mister Mystery
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
Levent asked "...I am very curious as to who came up with this adaptation of making a parasol cover into a 'blendo bag'?
My mentor, Earl Edwards, performed the Mutilated Parasol with a blendo specially made for him by Harold Rice as far back as the 1960's. He and his daughter Donna won "Best Presentation" and "Best Assistant" at the M.A.E.S. convention around 1964 with that routine as part of their act. But it wasn't a "blendo bag" but a pure blendo. Donna produced the silks for the routine using a silk fountain, and Earl took the silks from the silk fountain to change them into the parasol cover. But they had already been using that presentation for a few years before their appearance at that M.A.E.S. convention. Earl and Donna also felt that restoring the parasol at the end was anticlimactic. To me, restoring the parasol would be like Channing Pollock reproducing the bird cage that vanished at the end of his act, or Neil Foster restoring the flowers at the end of his Zombie routine back to the zombie ball, or David Copperfield reproducing the girl at the end of the DeKolta Chair vanish. I think _non sequiturs_ can be an integral and powerful part of a magical presentation--if done well. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I don't know for sure, but the 1st time I seen the Blendo Bag idea with the Mutilated Parasol was when Jade performed at Abbott's Get-Together. She of course was using the Abbott's Parasol equipment.
I believe we all know the creator of the Blendo Bag, Ali Bongo. Then a lot of dealers come up with different ways to make the bags. So I believe the correct answer would be Jade, but I may be wrong, but I really don't think she would takes someone else's material for her award winning act. |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Tim Starr made them before Jade was doing it. She does a wonderful act but the blendo idea goes way back.
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
According to TA Waters, Ted Annemann says, that, “…audiences are far from being as dumb as some performers seem to think.”
Waters went on to say that, “Annemann's particular bete noir was the Mutilated Parasol; it was beyond his comprehension how any performer could believe that this prop, bearing little resemblance to any umbrella the audience had ever seen, could fool anyone. Bruce Elliott, who reviewed many shows for Annemann's JINX, concurred in this assessment. Indeed, I've never met a layperson who didn't know after a single viewing EXACTLY how the effect was performed.” If this is the case, then why isn’t the original sleight of hand version where you switch it not done anymore? |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
The original was called Mutilated Sunshade and I think Davenports came out with it. It was a double mat and two parasols. But in the hands of a master it was deceptive and entertaining.
Richardf
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
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mtpascoe Inner circle 1932 Posts |
Some tricks when first seen are done so as when we are all either laymen or magicians. When I first saw this trick, I was already a magician so I can't say whether it is deceptive. But, what I think it is is funny. I think when the shade and the silks trade places, the reaction is more humor and I think that's why magicians have presented it for so many years.
The trick is even older than Davenports. I remember reading about it in Walter Gibson book "Master Magician." John Henry Anderson did it borrowing handkerchiefs. With the decline of its use, it's a shame that it can't be presented like it was in its purest form. But, I do recall Gibson saying that the original method was better than the mechanical one. I didn't understand it at the time, but when I got my hands on one at a magic shop I worked at, I saw how crude it was. The one I saw was cheap made of nylon. I didn't like it. I'm sure the Abbott one is superior. I don't want to offend anyone on here because it seems a lot of magicians like this. I just wonder if the old way of switching is better or not. |
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
I 'm not sure how deceptive the MP is either. I have seen it presented in several different ways, and read a bunch of other routines. None of them really stood out to me as being great. I love the look and color of the MP and I consider it a classic of magic, but it has it's shortfalls. I refused to include it into my show until I figured out a routine that I would be happy with. I have thought about it off and on for several years, and finally came up with something that I think I will like. I am trying to do some research now so I can decide which MP to get. At one time it would have been Abbott's without question, but since the design has changed and the price has went up so much I am trying to make sure before I buy.
Mister Mystery
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
In my personal opinion, the very best "Mutilated Parasol/Blendo Bag Combination" was marketed many years ago by Manfred Thumm of The Magic Hands...
Unlike any other parasol I have ever seen, his was made from alternating black and white, as were the included black and white silks and Blendo Bag. Also, his trick came with a heavy-duty self-opening spring-actuated parasol and a very nice switching tube, unlike any other I have ever seen. This is just my opinion, but when you're doing an act with a riot of color from silks, botanias. etc., I think there is a point to be made for a "segue-bit" where you "remove the color", turning colored silks into pure black and white. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Well, my earlier post was concerning the Ali Bongo Bag type Blendo that we were discussing. It has or had nothing to do with the traditional Blendo, as this was not what Jade was doing. I believe Jade did the converted Bag Blendo to Parasol cover, before Tim Star created his, that is how I remember it the timeline. Of course I do not know if Tim Star made his version when he worked for Rings and Things 1, if he did he never advertised it or let the dealers know it was available.
If any of you wish to get technical, using the hand bag is considered a Blendo effect, now isn't it. |
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