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wadodaw
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Does anyone know of good methods out there to visually stretch a rope?

I know two m****ts can be used to do this, but are there ways so that the rope can be thrown out to be examined either at the beginning or end or both?

Thanks,
Daniel
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Besides PN, Daryl's Expert Rope Magic Made Easy and Flip's Truly Magical Rope Magic both have methods to accomplish the apparent stretching of a rope. They have their limitations in terms of how examinable the rope is.
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Yes. basic magic books (at library or bookstore) contain this effect and secret. ungimmicked rope

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Thanks regan for the quick reply but I probably should have been clearer. I'm thinking outside of a PN scenario, where the effect is not just a rearrangement of rope length, but actually "stretching" a rope to get new rope there that wasn't before. if it's done holding (at least apparently) only one rope so much the better. I'm sure people have published methods for this or even sell gimmicked versions, but I haven't found any.
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Wadodaw, the two sources I pointed to address this.
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Thanks erlandish, I'll look to those dvd's.
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I was alittle unclear. by "this trick" I mean walking on stage holding a short rope and pulling on the ends, stretching it into a much longer rope.

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Why not walk onto the stage with empty hands.

Many years ago I created an introduction to my rope routine inspired by "the basic textbook" method of stretchin an ungimmicked rope. (That means: you hide the extra nescesary rope exactly where most people think most magicians hide most things!). I started with empty hands (the two ends of the long hidden rope kept in place under my wristwatch). From a tophat I took with my left hand a pack of cigarettes with two cigarettes "protuding" (really the two short ends of the long rope behind the pack). I am not allowed to go into details here. But it should be obviuos to all magicians with a few books on the shelf how you could pull the two "cigarettes" out of the closede left fist in opposite directions until it is clear to everyone, that it is not two cigarettes, but a rope becoming longer and longer.
One important note: After all of the rope has been pulled out from "you know", turn the left fist (still gripping the rope) showing the audience the fingers and continue "pulling" rope out from both sides of the left fist with the right hand. Same technique as pulling an "endless loop" of rope through your hands (which I didn't know at that time). That is the convincer.
Then continue with your rope routine.
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Yes..Ali Bongo Has a way in his lecture but his routine is so convincing that you have no need to give it out at the end they examine it at the beginning.I kill with it an have fried many Magi..Cordially,Howard P.S willam Wallace is a genuis
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Thanks Trolle! The cigarette idea sounds like a great addition to that method.

Graywolf, this routine sounds intriguing, do you know where to buy a copy of Ali Bongo's lecture notes? I see Hank Lee, Denny and Lee (maybe a few other Lee's as well?) sell "The Bongo Book" for $7.50, which contains the effect "One Rope Baffling Bangle." Is that the rope stretching routine you're referring to?

Thanks, Daniel

Also, I see that there's some stretching rope material in Ronald Dayton's book Ropes with a Different Twist, $22.00. I haven't bought it (yet...) but these are supposedly original effects so maybe it'd be worth checking out.
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Yes, the Dayton traveling coil system found in "Hung Up On Ropes" available from Tannens
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Cool, I'll check it out.
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It was years ago I learned it at the lecture..Howard
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"Now You See It, Now You Don't" by Bill Tarr. The rope can be inspected after it is stretched.
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I think Flips method is very nice. Starting with a 12"-18" piece and ending up with, well, whatever length you want. Wouldn't take much to then toss it out to the audience.

Erlandish pointed to the DVD where it can be found.
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Thanks Josh, Flip's is going to be my next dvd buy b/c of that.

Thanks also Manal, I do know the Bill Tarr method but I was looking for the ways other pros have done this effect, besides the basic method he uses.

As I buy the various books/dvds suggested here I'll post a response, in case anyone else might be interested. Thanks again everyone for the suggestions.
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I've not done any of these, but here are a few from my favorite source.

Winston Freer's Alagen Rope(Enc of Rope Tricks): a 3' length is stretched to 6' and can be immediately handed out

Lambie's Perfect Rope Stretch (ibid)
Sellers A Different Stretching Rope (ibid)
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I like the "Optical Illusion" rope stretch (my name for it). You show a jar that is painted on one side and transparent on the other. From the jar you pull out an 18 inch length of rope. Sticking one end of the rope into the jar, and turning the jar so the opaque side is towards the audience, you stroke the rope towards the jar, making an illusion that the rope is stretching and going into the jar. Then you laugh and turn the jar around, showing the audience how the illusion makes it seem as if the rope is stretching, but the rope, of course, stays the same length all the time. You then rotate the jar back to the opaque side and show the audience how real that illusion can seem if they don't know the "secret." But this time you rotate the jar back to the clear side and they can see that the rope has really stretched to ten or twelve feet as you draw it back out of the jar. You can then label the jar "TIPS" and use the rope for a cut and restored follow up trick, generating a lot of tips for the jar.
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Joshua Jay has a visual stretching of a rope (an ideal rope opener) on one of his DVD's. Examinability is not an issue here.
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