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mturek New user 1 Post |
If one is using 21 oz. black velour curtains as a back drop would the same material be better than triple black for the use in some simple black art?
Thanks, MT |
Eyes of Darkness Regular user 137 Posts |
No, stick with the triple black velvet.
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aquamage New user 92 Posts |
Always go with the velvet!
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
Velour is too shiny. You need the triple black.
Destiny |
Dave Dorsett Veteran user Macomb, Illinois 345 Posts |
I'm not sure we're reading the question correctly... if you're saying you are already using the velour as a backdrop and need a material to use in conjunction with the pre-existing material, then you will need to match. If you attempt to use triple black in front of velour, you may end up with almost a "black hole" effect.
That being said, if you are starting from scratch you should use triple black despite the higher cost as you will get superior results.
Dave Dorsett
Douglas~Wayne Illusioneering |
ConjuringCoach New user Seattle, WA 17 Posts |
Dave Dorsett makes a good point. However, even if you are asking about matching pre-existing velour...don't do it. Scrap the velour. It will not hide depth or shape the way triple velvet will.
If you are going to go forward with velour you might want to consider adding bright lighting around the frame of your curtain set. If you look at designs such as Paul Osborne's Black Art Theater (found in his Big Black Book: The First Collection) or the Spook Room as described in Byron Wels book The Great Illusions of Magic you will notice the front is lined with exposed light bulbs. These bright lights help to confuse depth perception for the inner BA space. I am trying to accomplish the same thing using a variety of floor lamps and hanging lamps around the edge of my stage. The placement of the lights does not seem as carnival or contrived as the exposed light bulbs do (my humble opinion of course).
You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus.
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Dave Dorsett Veteran user Macomb, Illinois 345 Posts |
With any BA setup the old method of bouncing light out at the audience is extremely helpful. Thanos' method sounds like he is giving it the thought necessary to keep his rig from screaming "I'm blinding the audience!" But his and other posters input on the Triple Black is your best bet- it will be far more convincing.
Dave Dorsett
Douglas~Wayne Illusioneering |
Bill Blagg III Regular user 169 Posts |
A great source for advice is DONDRAKE. He's a great guy who is always willing to help out.
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JoyJoy Special user Germany 514 Posts |
Does somebody have a link to a good triple black - seller? Where did you have good qualitity experience?
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Jack Murray Special user St. Petersburg Fl. 773 Posts |
Jack Murray
http://www.dream-illusions.com |
Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
I totally agree with Jack Murray.
I got a bulk order from Denver Fabrics at a reasonable price and with very reasonable shipping cost, considering the distance it had to come and the speed with which it arrived. Their service was excellent. Destiny |
SpellbinderEntertainment Inner circle West Coast 3519 Posts |
On topic / off topic…
You might want to try for fire-resistant or fire-proof fabrics as well, depending upon where you play, and how much curtain there is, this might be a necessity down the line, so consider it before you buy. Here in SF the Fire Marshalls are on top of everything and every show. Magically, Walt |
JoyJoy Special user Germany 514 Posts |
Thanks Jack & Destiny! I will give it a try.
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
You do not need to blind your audience with lights to utilize black art properly.
You can also purchase bolts of triple velvet from Procraft Illusions.
It's all in the reflexes.
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