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Hello all, I'm currently debating whether or not to release my stigmata. If anyone has any interest in this effect please let me know. The effect can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E26fTmHlDU

Thank you in advance.
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Wow, that's cool...
best regards

=payz=
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Okay, don't mean to sound silly but all I see is your hand bleeding, no card revelation at all. Could you point it out for me?
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Don't mean to sound silly...but Jalal, where do you see about a card reveal?
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On 2007-03-26 11:34, jalal12321 wrote:
Okay, don't mean to sound silly but all I see is your hand bleeding, no card revelation at all. Could you point it out for me?


The word Stigmata is defined as marks resembling the wounds of the crucified body of Christ, said to be supernaturally impressed on the bodies of certain persons, esp. nuns, tertiaries, and monastics
I used the name "Stigmata" to represent what you see in the clip. Wayne Houchin and Banacheck use the same name to represent their excellent handeling of an older effect. Their effect includes the revelation of a card/initials and is completely different from what you see here. Please don't get them confused. I cannot think of any other name to call my effect so I included the word "Bloody" to hopefully avoid any confusion. Thank you all for your comments, please keep them coming.
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Oh, I'm really sorry. I automatically assumed you where doing a similar type of effect but with the added part with blood. Ok, so now I understand the effect, what is the point of it? As far as the spectators point of view is concerned your hand is bleeding.... Sorry to be harsh but I am trying to get my head around what the actual "effect" of it is.
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Robertson,

I don't know about you, but for me it'd be way too easy to just go - his palm is bleeding - and dismiss it. In fact it IS your palm bleeding so I don't know even if it counts as represents what you want it to represent....

Now if you could show a hole in your hand - that'd be a Bizzare effect.
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Showing a hole in his hand would be no different, in regards to there being an "effect" or not.

The idea is that your hands just start to bleed, whith no apparent cause to the wound.

Look up what stigmata actually is also.

And, as well, do NOT think of the other stigmata (whos name never made sense to me) as being a card revelation. That is far to limiting.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

I won't forget you Robert.
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On 2007-03-26 00:32, Robertson wrote:
Hello all, I'm currently debating whether or not to release my stigmata. If anyone has any interest in this effect please let me know. The effect can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E26fTmHlDU

Thank you in advance.


Pmed you Smile
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This effect could be GREATLY used in the right hands! I guess people do not see the potential in this. Anyone could easily make a cult with this, make people believe you are the son of God. This seems an effect that you can just walk up to a person and a few seconds just do it. It looks like you have to talk to the person a bit so they just don't see that you might have cut your palm right before you met them.

This is an awesome effect, release it!
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Really neat effect. I dig it.
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That has the potential to really freak some people out!
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Given the very graphic nature of the effect with religious overtones, I would try to lighten it up a bit. If it can be setup for the stigmata to appear on the forearm, rather than, the palm, it might defuse the controversy a bit. How you can make a bleeding wound humorous, will take some effort and talent.

Releasing the MO commercially, might give access to charletans looking to make a quick buck fleecing the naive faithful.
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I always loved the whole hand vs writs argument.

The actual truth is, it could be either.

There is the argument that "hand" included the wrist, but the argument that the hand could not support the weight is irrelevent.

It is true, but the nail in the "hand" was not what suported the whole weight anyways. If it was, then no matter where it was, the victem could simply (well, not too simple, would still hurt, but u'd be surprised what pain you can endure when fightnig for your life) pull his arm off the end of the nail.

What prevented this, and supported the majorty of their weight, was the rope around the forearms. The nail was just added help and torture.

So it doesn't matter if you want your stigmata on your wrist or hand.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

I won't forget you Robert.
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If you google images for jesus on the cross. It is very popular to see Jesus nailed by the center of the hands. Even in cartoons.
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Thank you all for your interest. The clip is very short and lacks my presentation.. its just the effect part. The stigmata can be delayed and appear whenever I want. This is not a wound at all and is 100% safe.
I have been working on the perfect stigmata for years and have 9 workable methods, I plan on releasing a dvd in the near future containing all 9 methods and 13 different effects.

For all of your feedback, here is a free stigmata effect(NOT THE ONE IN THE CLIP):
The performer displays his clean, outstreched hand; front and back. With the back of his hand to the audience he makes a fist. When he turns the hand around and opens it, a bloody wound is now in the center of his palm!

Without revealing any secrets, the knowlegable magician will put 2 and 2 together when I say: Fickle Nickle + fake wound. Enjoy!

BSmith

P.S. If you stick to it with some heavy thinking, it is not even necessary to make a fist Smile
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Lol, I like the fickle idea. Not sure where ur going with the heavy thinking though. Unless you mean just a turn over.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

I won't forget you Robert.
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Personally, I think this is a genius effect - and it can be used to augment any presentation - (cards - ugh) - think dark bizarrist magick - my favourite brew...

Say, if you need someone to act as a "tester" for the effect- PM me - ask around the Café - I am the local mizarrist of madness...

(P.S. My Stigmata effect in THE DARK MUSEUM doesn't involve cards either - just a chupacabra claw that a spectator uses during a magical ritual that causes the performer's arm to break out in scratches - revealing a thought on the spec's mind)...

Stigmata effects rule!!!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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That's the best effect using the methods I presume you're using that I've ever seen.
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O-kay. I'm sold after reading your second post. I've made some bad assumptions due to short clip - my mistake.
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