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tedski Special user New Jersey 792 Posts |
Obviously, learning comes quicker with exposure to more experienced magi...
I am 39, but only been doing effects for about 3 months ( but it has been a very strong effort in this time with I believe good progress - I fool my friends easily) I think joining a club would help immensely, but am I ready? When being a guest at a club, are you required to do a trick. I would be happy to, but I don't know if I could do a whole routine at this point. Also, with more experienced magi, they will know exactly how I do a matrix, or a flurry, or a bill switch - won't they be bored? If I did an effect for them, I would attempt to "change the moment" by using a personal story /patter during the effect, because I doubt I would be improving the actual method. Is this what I should do, or just have my technique evaluated? Thanks for all your guidance along this path - you have all been of great help so far. |
Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4849 Posts |
Every club is different when it comes to performing. My S.A.M. club in NJ does not require a performance to join however, we encourage everyone, even guests, to do something. As for other magicians knowing what you are doing, don't worry about it. If you do something that fools them, great. If not, it's a great way to sharpen up your skill. I personally would recommend that everyone join a local club regardless of their skill level. There's no better way to improve yourself.
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
Tedski writes: ". . . with more experienced magi, they will know exactly how I do a matrix, or a flurry, or a bill switch - won't they be bored?"
They will probably fall asleep -- but that will have nothing to do with you! Seriously, you question whether you are ready. None of us is every truly "ready" so you might as well go for it; I certainly would, in your position. Remember, nobody was born knowing this stuff and everybody was a rank beginner at one time; so they will understand (if they don't, screw 'em!) Your idea of using a personal story during the effect is one that I heartily agree with (but I'm biased in that direction, anyway). A magic club has been described more than once as "a place where you can fail". Since you are among other performers who have all laid a few eggs in their day, you should remember you have nothing to worry about. Someday there will be a newcomer who will be concerned about you and your (by then) extensive experience! |
Darren Roberts Loyal user 222 Posts |
Thanks for this thread. As a beginner, I've also been wondering about magic clubs or groups.
The two posts already given have encouraged me to at least check out what's in my area. Thanks! |
Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4849 Posts |
Darren: there's a similar thread going on in the show me the money forum. I mentioned there that if you go to the IBM website at http://www.magician.org or the S.A.M. site at http://www.magicsam.com, you can find local clubs in those organizations. The members of those clubs usually know if there are other groups meeting in the area.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
In both the clubs in your area, which I am a member do not require you to perform to be a guest or a member.
The clubs, IBM Ring #165, Collingswood, and SAM 4, Northeast Phila, both are easy to get to from your location. You are welcome to come as my guest, if you so choose.
Dennis Michael
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what Special user Lehi, UT, USA 643 Posts |
I joined the local IBM last september and have found it something to look forward to every month. Our ring requires a performance, but it is among magiicians (or budding magicians) and they are a very sympathetic audience. I performed my new cups & balls and received a couple of very good, concrete bits of advice as well as a couple of compliments afterward.
I recomend joining as soon as they'll let you.
Magic is fun!!!
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Sid Mayer Special user Santa Fe, NM 656 Posts |
Some magic clubs require that you do a few tricks to qualify for membership but most will let you attend for months before you have to pass the "test."
By that time, you will have discovered that the present members have a wide range of skills and knowledge, some very good, some mediocre. So, you have nothing to worry about. Do it. You'll benefit from the cross-pollination of ideas (and the ample supply of fertilizer). Sid
All the world's a stage ... and everybody on it is overacting.
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GTDude11 New user 58 Posts |
Do any of you guys know of any good magic clubs in the metro Atlanta area (Georgia)????
Thanx!!!
"A genius is 1 % inspiration and 99% perspiration "-Thomas Edison
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JamesR New user 51 Posts |
I was wondering about joining a local club myself. I'm gald to hear all these positive reviews, they have really helped my decide to go check one out.
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Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4849 Posts |
GTdude11: check my post above for the websites of the IBM and SAM. You can search those sites for your exact area and you'll have the contact names as well.
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GTDude11 New user 58 Posts |
I was just wondering if it was worth paying the money each year to be a member??? thanx in advance!!!
"A genius is 1 % inspiration and 99% perspiration "-Thomas Edison
MAGIC RULES!!! GTDUDE11 |
what Special user Lehi, UT, USA 643 Posts |
Our local group has guest lecturers come in a few times a year. The month I joined, Jim Cellini came (It was a great lecture). The cost to attend a lecture is $10 if you are a member of the IBM and $30 if you are not. I suspect that the arrangement is similar in most clubs. David Regal is scheduled in a few months, and we will probably have at least 2 more lectures this year. Watching these experienced performers and asking them questions is fascinating and great training.
In our club, you make up the annual dues by attending 2 lectures. Beyond that, It is great to be able to perform some of the effects that I have learned and see what others have been studying. Sometimes you can't see the value (or lack of value) that an effect or presentation has until you see it. There are so many little (and big) nuances that are passed from person to person that just can't be passed on in a video, or book. One more plus (In case you are still teetering on the edge) is that the club is a great way to socialize and have something interesting and unique to socialize about.
Magic is fun!!!
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Terry New user 93 Posts |
GTDude11,
As far as Atlanta, there is a great club in Roswell. I can't think of a better way to spend an evening than with a room full of showboaters! The past meeting there were about 60 attendees, and there was magic from about 7:00 to 11:00. I had a really great time, and the gang really friendly... Check it out... http://rick.home.mindspring.com/ring9.html |
GTDude11 New user 58 Posts |
thanx for the tips but I was still wondering about 1 thing...I am just about to turn 13 and can you join Georgia's Ring 9 if you are my age?????
I know about the junior members at the IBM but I didn't know if I could join ring 9 if you were a teenager.thanx in advance!!!!!
"A genius is 1 % inspiration and 99% perspiration "-Thomas Edison
MAGIC RULES!!! GTDUDE11 |
magicgirl New user 63 Posts |
Echoing what others have said, being in a club such as I.B.M. or S.A.M. gives you an opportunity you probably can't get anywhere else and that is to meet and be taught by famous magicians. My first SAM meeting I attended a workshop given by Michael Ammar where there was only a handful of other people with me so we each got individual attention. He then performed a show and a lecture that night. In April, Eugene Burger will be lecturing and offering a workshop like the one I attended by Ammar. I'm not sure if there is a set yearly fee to join. I paid $65 - but don't forget, that includes a year subscription to the club magazine. All in all, a club is going to give you the opportunity to meet people, famous or not, that share your interest in magic and for me, that is worth it.
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On 2003-01-23 09:01, GTDude11 wrote: GTDude - I'm not sure about I.B.M, but I do know that some S.A.M. assemblies also have a Society of Young Magicians chapter. Also, some assemblies will allow Junior members to join them so you would probably need to contact your local chapters directly and see what their policy is. Hope that answers your question. |
Alan Wheeler Inner circle Posting since 2002 with 2038 Posts |
I imagine the best things to perform at a magic club would be original material or at least material re-worked so that the effects would be routined or presented in a slightly new way: in this way, even veteran magicians might enjoy and profit from what us newbies are doing.
alleycat
The views and comments expressed on this post may be mere speculation and are not necessarily the opinions, values, or beliefs of Alan Wheeler.
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Chrystal Inner circle Canada/France 1552 Posts |
My experiences with my ring has been nothing but positive. Some rings have a requirement such as you must be a member of the IBM to join. The IBM ask that you have had an interest in magic for at least two years prior to joining.However, a phone call to your local ring will surely result in an invite to be their guest. For those of you that asked where you can locate the closest ring to you , your local magic shop will know. Hopefully in the spirit of The Brotherhood of Magicians you will share the love of magic, comeraderie , networking , ethics...all that good stuff! Good luck everyone.Awww just makes me feel all mushy inside when I think of all the wonderful people in my ring.
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bilz New user Cornwall, UK 88 Posts |
Does anyone here belong to or know any clubs in the UK? (South west)
I've been learning on my own for around 6 months and would love to find a club and meet some like minded souls. Bilz
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CloseUpMagicKid Regular user Los Angeles 105 Posts |
Is anyone here a member of The Magic Castle in Hollywood, CA.?
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