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I've decided to venture into the world of topiting and having read the previous forums. It seems that the Cellini topit is the one for me but where can I get one from in the UK preferably or over the net in the states? Also, has anyone tried the Davenports topit? How long does it take to be up to performace standard with the topit? I've heard it's a long road.
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I don't think that anyone will sell you a topit. The Cellini lecture notes have a pattern, and you will have to have it made for you. I don't do any topiting yet either, but the Cellini topit is the way to go I think.

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I know nothing about this, so good luck.
It's only a six dollar gamble, and it might actually work.
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Profile of ralphdean has Ammar's video set on closeout for $39 while their supply lasts.

I ordered a set yesterday.
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The Ammar tapes and book is the way to go. A lot of thought has been put into this design, and the magic contained in the book and videos is just outstanding.

Ammar vs Cellini---Ammar for sure in topit issues.

Good Luck
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They are NOT hard to make or sew, in fact, if you can iron, you can use iron on tape for the seams! (Just be sure to check it after you have it cleaned or washed, or better still, use the safety pin method and remove for cleaning!) They work nicely, and if your garment is tailored for your body size/shape (like mine is) they will work nicely.
When you decide on a pattern you want, go to the fabric store, talk to the nice lady and say you want some black fabric, not shiny (or whatever color your lining is).
Tell her if you can sew or not, and if not, ask for the iron on fuse tape. Heck, she may take pity on you and offer to sew it for you for a couple dollars. Pay her in coins that you magically produce! Smile
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Profile of Faroshuffle
Tim Ellis & Sue Anne Webster just lectured here in Sacramento at Grand Illusions. Tim had a modified topit he uses and had some great tips on it. The most effective tip I saw was the use of a magnetic attachment on the belt where the topit would attach to your waist. This makes hook-up a breeze! Beyond that, it was an Ammar design.

Hope this helps! I liked it! Smile
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Profile of dillib
Anyone tried the JSB topit yet?
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Profile of stephenbanning
Just to put credit where credit is due, the magnetic set up is Cellini's.

I believe Ammar's topit is definitely easiest to use over Davenport and Cellini. Cellini's has advantages however, but I think it is something best left for a more advanced user for a number of reasons. The Davenport topit is the only topit that I know one can actually buy ready made but I think the Ammar Topit has more flexibility and accuracy. I'm not familiar with the actual use of the JSB topit. I haven't used it. The Ammar Topit does require careful adjustment to your body type hand level, etc. as does Cellini's to an even greater extent.
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If you are in the UK and can get hold of Pat Page (he's almost always at the Circle on Monday nights) he is the original great topit demo man. He worked at Davenports for years.

I would start with the Davenport one, it is all ready to go and you will find out how to use one.

I don't know about Celini's "magnet" but I had a magnetic set up topit in 1950s... Also Fred Lowe had a terrific modification to a topit. Ask Pat Page about it.
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Profile of stephenbanning
Sorry Pete,

I Didn't know that. I stand correcred. Cellini's magnet attaches the topit to the vest so that if you want you can open the coat, disconnecting the topit from the body. This also allows you to take the jacket off in front of the audience.

Pete, I have a question. I never practiced that much with my Davenport style Topit which I believe I got from Tannen's. Ammar says it's harder to "hit." Do you find this to be true? Ammar's is tapered to remedy this. Do you find this better?
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Profile of Fredrick
On 2003-02-09 04:10, dillib wrote:
Anyone tried the JSB topit yet?

Yes, I have them installed in both of my performance jackets. Its a variation on the Ammar that eliminates any chance of "over-shooting."

Have a wonderful and magical New Year!

~ Fredrick
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