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Ryan clark
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No one has probably has ever heard of this, but what the heck. This is a move by Kostya Kimlat, You can let the spectators shuffle the cards themselves face up into face down themselves after they have made a selection and then cull all of the face up cards to the bottom in 10-15 seconds. I have his notes explaining the effect. If any has tried this can you please p.m and explain it a bit better for me? I really need to learn this. I guess I don't learn well without pictures.


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There have been MANY threads, long threads on the Roadrunner cull.

Try searching some of the other threads on this because they include a lot of great handling tips that would improve it.


You can also pick up his DVD which demo's the cull in 4-5 effects, including 2 performances of Culligula.
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Culligula is great, but does he explain the cull rather than just demo it?
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First of all, email him. He has taught the cull many, many times to many, many people. He can help you out. Secondly, find out if he plans to lecture near you since he teaches the cull there. Thirdly, I believe he is coming out with a DVD on the cull soon.

If you need any specific help on the cull, if you PM me I'd be happy to help since I do it often, or refer you to someone else on this forum who knows the cull.

Good luck.

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What is the difficulty of the cull on a scale of 1-10? and this doesn't mean getting it perectly in performance but actually just learning the technique?
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Hmm...not quite sure exactly the number I'd give. The technique is not horribly difficult to get down if you are familiar with the classic Hofzinzer spread cull but it will take a while to get the correct rhythm. It takes even longer to get to the point to be able to do the triumph. It is also very useful though to just cull four or five cards.

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It is like all the moves. When you have it down, it is second nature. Difficulty 1 on 10. The thing is: you need to put the time into it to get to this mastery. Like a good DL, a good pass... a good cull.
The written description in the notes are pretty clear, if I remember correctly. He also teach it in his International magic lecture DVD.
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http://www.internationalmagic.com

They sell the lecture dvd which Kostya did last year. In the dvd he gives an in-depth explaination of the 'Roadrunner cull',

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Hey guys, I do the Hofzinzer SC a lot for 1-5 cards or so. I am impressed with the RR Cull(from a demo). I don't have the need to cull more than about 5 cards, but am wondering if the RR would replace the Hofz. for my purposes. In other words, is it worth switching for so few cards? I know the RR is great for many cards, but how about just a few (compared to the Hofz.)?
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Griff, while this has not been made completely clear, the RR cull *IS* a Hofz spread cull, it is just Kostya's handling / fingering of it.

In other words if you are already doing a hofz. spread cull for 5 cards, then you can do the same for 26 cards, because the mechanics are the same, its just kostya has a different fingering / rhythm for it.

So you wouldnt be switching, but perhaps just refining the cull you are already doing.
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With the help of cody I completely understand the cull now, and hot *** is it a nice one. It will take some work though to be able to cull half the deck. But even for 4 cards or so it is perfect. I just need to get the rhythm down now, and I can imagine this is the only move I will be doing for a while now, since I get quite obsessive.

Thanks for everyones help.

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On 2007-04-06 20:25, Dizzy wrote:
http://www.internationalmagic.com

They sell the lecture dvd which Kostya did last year. In the dvd he gives an in-depth explaination of the 'Roadrunner cull',

Diane


strange, because I always read/hear that it is just a brief/very short description....as far as I know kostya didn't published a really in depth description (unfortunately) though it is his most request effect. I'd love to learn it as well. but I am not gonna pay big bucks for a brief description...if I am wrong, please let me know
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I think for four cards I would look into Marlo's prayer cull... but that's just me.
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I have looked into the prayer cull, but this one seems more efficient if you ask me, but you're not so I'll shut my fat mouth.
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No need to "shut your mouth" brother.

If you don't mind me asking, why do you feel it is more efficient? I use the prayer cull for four cards, and the roadrunner for separating colors, or larger sets of cards (say a suit).

I'm curious why you feel the Roadrunner, for a small group of cards, is a better alternative?
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On 2007-04-08 23:00, Memory-Jah wrote:
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On 2007-04-06 20:25, Dizzy wrote:
http://www.internationalmagic.com

They sell the lecture dvd which Kostya did last year. In the dvd he gives an in-depth explaination of the 'Roadrunner cull',

Diane


strange, because I always read/hear that it is just a brief/very short description....as far as I know kostya didn't published a really in depth description (unfortunately) though it is his most request effect. I'd love to learn it as well. but I am not gonna pay big bucks for a brief description...if I am wrong, please let me know
Well it is well described. It's video from his lecture at London, and he goes in details how to do it.
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Its going to take lots of practice. I saw it performed twice, once in Miami and once in Atlanta. Difficulty scale of 1-10, just begining....10. Today its a breeze. The only way it will work is if you get to that level wear you don't even have to really try," your hands move by themselves", as Kostya puts it. It is muscle memory. It is very satisfiying to do right under their noses. I now do this every time with no problems. I took me ,personaly, about four months of practice before it looked good for laymen( I really only had the notes to go back to). Worth every day. I hope most people give up on it. Right now I never have to hear .."I've seen that before." Only those precious words.." NO WAY!" Good Luck Ryan!
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Thanks jason, Its slowly coming along, nordatrax , I think it basically just feels more comfortable for me to cull cards casually with this method, as apposed to the prayer cull, I suppose its just as good but more of a comfortability thing.

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Keep practicing. This is one of those moves that if I could only use 4 moves for the rest of my life, this would be one of them (w/ a DL, pass, and second deal). The Triumph using this cull is unreal. Well worth the time and effort.
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Agreed
Any Effect Is Possible, methods are relativley easy to come by, but it is the effect that takes true courage to come up with

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