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Pat Trick
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Hey Coin People:

On David Stone's Real Secrets of Magic DVD, he uses these sweet looking coins for his coin routines. They're about the size of Kennedy US half-dollars but slightly brighter and more copperish in color, and possibly a smidge larger. At one point he says (half under his breath) that it's an American dollar, but a few close-up shots show something different -- a coin with an embossing pattern I've never seen. I couldn't find any reference in the credits. Any clues?
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I'm pretty sure they are silver dollars he uses. I could be wrong though. They look like morgan silver dollars...
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Well, I cn't seem to find US silver dollars. Banks no longer carry 'em, unless you mean the Indian mom with baby version, and they are copper looking and are smaller than half dollars. I'll take another close gander. Thanks, Speed.
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Ebay has tons of any coins that you want for magic. Banks will no longer carry silver coins simply because the silver content of the coins costs many more times than the value of the coin. You can still find clad half dollars (kennedy's) and Ike dollars at some banks and in circulation. I believe David Stone uses Morgan dollars and Kennedy halves.

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Hey Stevie:

Thanks, but you've opened up a "coin of worms." A google search discovers that there are three or four different kinds of Ike dollars, as well as Morgans. I'm going to go back and pause the Stone DVD and get a real close look at them coins!
Seriously, I 'preciate the help!

-P
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Go with your hand size, not the color. In order from largest to smallest, these are American coin sizes (for our non-American friends):

(1) Walking Liberty Silver Dollar - investment coin, currently minted
(2) Morgan, Peace, and Eisenhower Silver Dollars - early to mid 20th century
(3) Half Dollars - mid-19th century to current
(4) Quarters - mid-19th century to current
(5) Sacajawea and Susan B. Anthony 'new' dollar coins - mid-70's to current
(6) Nickels - mid-19th century to current
(7) Pennies - mid-19th century to current
(8) Dimes - mid-19th century to current

Earlier versions of any of these except the nickel, penny, and 'new' dollars are silver; late 20th century versions are sandwich, except for #1. The nickel content of nickels has varied over the years, as has the zinc content of pennies. Pennies were even made of steel during WWII. Sacajawea dollars are gold-washed. Nickels, pennies, and 'new' dollar coins don't have a ridged edge, whereas all other U.S. coins do, except for the new Presidents series of quarters which aren't ridged but do have an edge inscription.

Of course, this list leaves out many, many antique American coins. But these are the ones that are generally available for a reasonable price.

What most people don't know is that the U.S. Mint STILL presses common coins in 90% silver instead of sandwich. But these are sold as limited edition proof sets directly by the Mint for $38. Still, if you want some real shiny coins for your routine, well. Smile

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Airship, you da mensch! Thanks for the info mother lode. I agree entirely with your size-over-color comment, but there's something to be said for the added showmanship of getting used to coins that have an extra visual zing to 'em.

Thanks again,

- Padraig
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So actually are half dollars still being produced by the mint today? I'n not from the US, but often spread as rumor among my local magic community is that halves have went off-mint since 2000 or maybe some yrs ago. is that true?
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NOT TRUE. Kennedy halves are still being minted today!
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Minted or not... they are not common pocket change anymore. You can't use them in parking meters, most vending machines etc AND were you to check in a cash register you might find only a few per week in a BUSY supermarket. At least that is what I recall from 1980. Since then even the dollar coins have become an annoying fuss for most folks.

If you simply MUST use a certain sized coins for your tricks because of the moves/methods... you might as well do the work and find a good reason to carry them. Remember, nobody says you MUST do coin tricks in parlor or platform venues and there are things like billiards and thimbles etc.
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