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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Fender re-designed the speakers for for the PD series. There may be other differences too, but I can't remember. All I know is I tried them both in the store and the PD sounded much better. I didn't even consider buying the P series after I compared the two.
Dennis, about the comparisons: Please note the distance of the recording device in relation to the speaker(s). The distance a speaker can 'throw' the sound is vital. Sometimes that is where the smaller speakers fall short. They may sound really good at close range, even in a large room. The same speaker may loose it as you get farther away from it. Regan
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Tod Todson Inner circle USA 1296 Posts |
Sounds like a helpful test for all of us, Dennis.
You deserve the "giving back" award of the year!
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Michael Messing Inner circle Knoxville, TN 1817 Posts |
Dennis, Regan is correct. Bose assisted in the design of the speakers used in the Fender PD series and really improved the sound. They have more fullness to them and better clarity.
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kenscott Inner circle 1869 Posts |
I had/have both of them, the P series and the PD. The PD is FAR better than the p series. I love the system. I use it in all my schools shows.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I like the PD as well. I've never heard the P series but you can always find them much cheaper on ebay and everywhere else.
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Tod Todson Inner circle USA 1296 Posts |
Dennis, it sounds like you don't need the P series anymore. You want my mailing address
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
What does one do with so many outdated PA systems?
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kenscott Inner circle 1869 Posts |
Give them away!
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Michael Messing Inner circle Knoxville, TN 1817 Posts |
Dennis, I sell my older PA systems when moving on. I've sold a Peavey PA-200, Fender P-250, Fender P-150, Peavey Solo, Roller PA, Portable Buddy and a Pyle Pro PMWA3600 - I think that's all of them over the years!
As long as you have a decent price on them, there's always a market. I sold the P-250 to a younger magician who wanted a big PA but didn't have the money for a new one and didn't have near enough for a PD-250. I sold the P-150 to another friend who didn't use music much at all (he's a mentalist) so the PD-150 wasn't appealing to him, etc. I've sold most of them locally but I've also sold on eBay. (I sold the expansion speakers for the P-250 on eBay. The shipping wasn't too bad because they are light speakers.) Michael |
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Jeff Haas Special user 929 Posts |
At least you're not a collector, with lots of old speakers taking up space in your garage!
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robertwong Loyal user Calgary, Canada 212 Posts |
Michael:
I am taking your lead as well. I recently sold a Anchor Audio 1000x and Fostex SPA-11 powered speakers so I can justify purchasing the new Mackie SRM150. I currently own a Fender PD150 and two Pyle Pro PWMA120s. I gave the magician who happens to be a very good friend mine a smoking deal. If I didn't sell the speakers my wife would kill me once she sees me picking up the new Mackie. Robert. |
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Michael Messing Inner circle Knoxville, TN 1817 Posts |
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On 2007-05-11 13:52, Jeff Haas wrote: The problem is I have 4 PA systems that are in my garage and those are the ones I use! (It's overkill, I know.) Michael |
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
I kept and used 3 for a long time, but I finally sold off my mid-sized system. Now I just have a large and a small.
Regan
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Michael Messing Inner circle Knoxville, TN 1817 Posts |
I've got small, medium, large and extra large! (I use a Roland CM-30 for birthday parties and smaller shows, a Carvin StageMate for medium shows, a pair of JBL Eon G2 10 powered speakers for my illusion shows and a pair of 15" Carvin PM-15A powered speakers for the really big rooms. There's a ballroom here that is more than 27,000 square feet in size!)
I should sell the JBLs or the big Carvins but I really like both of them. The JBLs would get a much higher price if I sold them than the Carvins. Michael |
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Davburg2 New user 1 Post |
I have been looking at the Fender Passport-PD150 system and now they have the Fender Passport-PD150Plus system with built in CD player and Stronger "D" type amplifier. Does anyone here know to compare these two systems? The Fender Passport-PD150 system has gotten great reviews and the PLUS, which has just come out, hasn't any.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
CD Player seems a bit outdated and unnecessary. why not just plug in an iPod.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Fender is a good company and it is something I would want to replace my older P150 with. Thanks for the information I will look it up. A CD player will be around for a long time, and with a computer they are easy to make. A set show could run well with a CD player.
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts |
I'm going to revive this thread.
Here are my needs. I am just starting out and initially plan on focusing entirely on kids birthday parties. I've done a few with good feedback but I want to make them more professional so I would like to add sound and music to them but I don't want to spend a ton as I am focusing on shows in living rooms or back yards with 20 - 30 kids. (Maybe even small church rooms with 30-40 scouts) I want a system that will let me run the sound system remotely and also provide me with a wireless mic. (Headset probably). From reading through this topic, I'm interested in either the system Keith Raygor has, (Mipro MA-101) or the system that First Class Magician settled on, (Roland CM-30). However, It's been a year since anyone posted to this link. Have any opinions changed? How do you think these two choices compare? Thanks for any help you might offer. Mike |
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Stevethomas Inner circle Southern U.S.A. 3728 Posts |
Have you looked into Anchor products?
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sethb Inner circle The Jersey Shore 2719 Posts |
Mike, I have two suggestions for you, either one would probably run around $700 complete. While that is a nice piece of change, I think you will find a small PA to be a good investment that will rapidly pay for itself (and it's also tax-deductible).
The first is a PASO ProCast 50, click HERE to view. This is a 30-watt wireless unit with a 5-hour rechargeable battery, weighing in at 12 pounds total. [It's advertised as a 50-watt unit, but that's at peak power, not really realistic over the long haul.] In any event, it has plenty of punch for a crowd of up to 30-40 people, maybe even 50, and will provide good sound reinforcement. It has an auxilliary 1/4" phono jack that you can plug a MP3 player into, with a separate volume control for that line. [Don't get the optional factory-installed MP3 player, at $200 it is way overpriced and underpowered.] There are also basic bass and treble controls, nothing fancy. Some folks don't care for an all-in-one unit like this, because if one component fails, the whole thing goes down. On the other hand, you only have one thing to carry around, there is virtually no setup needed, no speaker wires, no separate amps and receivers, etc., it is very convenient and simple to use. Since I am a magician and not an electrician, this made a lot of sense to me! I have used the PASO unit for a year and half now, for street festivals, country fairs and craft shows (I do a Svengali Pitch), and I have found it to be durable and reliable. The wireless transmitter will fit nicely in your back pants pocket, and you can run the mic wire up your back, over your left shoulder, under your collar, and clip the lav mic to your shirt collar. This makes for an inconspicuous but effective system that will not get in your way while you are performing. The only problem I have had with the PASO unit was that the little plastic mic clip broke, and I had to buy a metal replacement one for about $15. Otherwise, no problems. Get the optional $35 carrying case -- it fits perfectly and has three pockets for mics, spare AA batteries for the body pack, patch cords, MP3 player, etc. You may or may not want the optional speaker stand, which raises the unit to "ear" level for greater efficiency and sound coverage; it is handy, lightweight yet durable, but I can just see the little darlings tripping over the thing! The other unit you might consider is the Anchor AN-130, click HERE to view. This is also a wireless 30-watt PA, but has no internal battery and only runs on AC power, weighing in at about 9 pounds. This would be fine if you will always have access to AC. Since the Anchor unit without the rechargeable battery is about the same price as the PASO, I would guess that the quality of the Anchor components might be a little higher, but I have no personal experience with this unit and don't really know. Anchor also offers a soft carrying case, probably a good purchase to protect your investment. They also sell a speaker stand, too. Both Anchor and PASO sell a more powerful 50-watt unit, but that will likely set you back about $1200, and it's probably overkill for what you need. It's also going to add at least another 10-15 pounds to your load. Whatever you buy, PLEASE be sure to invest in a good quality surge protector. This is cheap insurance when you don't know exactly what sort of AC line quality you are plugging into. It also lets you plug your PA system, MP3 player, lights and whatever into the same single power strip, so you only have to run one heavy-duty extension cord off to a power outlet. Good luck, and let us know what you decide to do! I think you will find a PA system to be a good investment -- not only does it save your voice, but it lets you put that extra energy into your performance instead of using it just trying to be heard. I have also found that it gives you an extra degree of authority and control over your audience. And if you do children's shows, that's not a bad thing! SETH
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