Gave him a whole new outlook! BAAAZZZZZZIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGG!

That is 2 crude jokes in one thread, my record is 3.

"12 have died!"

No, sorry, "539 have had nasty cuts!"

Has anyone here seen the version of this trick where the performer RUNS down a staircase full of cups and the one he does not step on has the spike? Now THAT is a great trick. The element of fear and danger is almost palpable!

Maybe I am getting old but I just do not see how this effect can be worth the risk. seems because of Blain and C.A magic is turning more into here watch this stunt. Watch me sit is this clear box in 110 degree weather for two days I'm a magican and this is the best thing I can do! Watch me try to not impale My hand (or yours) on this spike. Watch me stick this needle into My eye watch me see what other stupid thing I can do.

Sorry for the above but it seems that quite a few of the younger magicians think that that is what magic is stunts, such as staying in a box over a river for days etc.. It's not never has been and never will be.

Yes I know there is a place for this type of magic and there are some members of the Café that do it very well. Todd Robbins is one but watch what he does it's not the crud some are pawning off as magic.

Just for the record, how many people have been hurt or died performing a particular stunt?

I know someone said that 12 have died doing the bullet catch.

How many have died doing the buried alive stunt? How many other illusions have gone horribly wrong?

Well I didn't die but I did throw my back out doing a original card to wallet move.

WOW!

Magik is a mad-man!

First he stabs himself and Now...

check out the Ad on the back wrap of Genii...

He is in the ad with someone holding a KNIFE to his chest. From the folks who brought you S&S...now you can do it with someone PLUNGING A KNIFE INTO YOUR CHEST!


If at first you don't succeed...


Love the Dude!

Great! Sounds like a good idea

-J.

We had this discussion at one of our magic clubs. Supposily there are several videos on You-Tube on this, one of which the magician used the volunteers hand and spiked it. Imagine all those who are embarassed to tell anyone of their mishap!

Now there is one on the market that uses bottles and is absolutly safe but it has the same audience effect without any real danger!

More miscues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGt1mmY94NI

something tells me that one that was painful, two you couldn't do it again, thirdly it isn't around anymore.

Angela did a version Im sure you saw. I am sure there was a safety net with this version. I mean, can't there be a modification to make this completely safe?

Can Smash and Stab be modified (for those who own it) to be used with something besides a real nail (fake spike, knife etc)?

I have performed this trick replacing the nail with a live mouse. The advantage here is that the spec or magi is in no danger at all and yet an element of danger still remains.

From the versions I know about you have to lose all concentration to miss it.
They don't seem that unsafe to me.
Angela's version on Phenomon was one of the Safer versions.
The one with the Spike and styrofoam cups is not as safe for various reasons.
Mobius

This effect makes the spectators squeamish; I would be surprised if most of the audience would like to see the trick done again. One problem that I have with it involves the manner of presentation. These are a couple of thoughts that might pass through the audience's mind.

1) This is some sort of electrical or mechanical trick, not a demonstration of special mental abilities.

2) It was just dumb luck that the magician smashed the right cups. (I have seen it presented in such a way that this seemed to be the explanation for the trick.)

None of the methods are 100% reliable. I know someone who is extremely cautious and careful, but the mechanism failed. I think there are better tricks that are more impressive to the audience.

Great thoughts here.....I also asked about replacing the spike but I was told it could not be replaced.

Wow, a mouse interesting. When I have done it (homemade versions) I do not see how one could loose concentration. Making a mistake I can see but just loosing thought I cannot.

I would be interested in the one Angela's version but I assume it is a special made version.

If you're stupid enough to do this routine, use the "beer bottle" version. I'm not sure who makes it, but it's 100% safe. The broken beer bottle is replaced (switched) with a harmless one.

Jim

A week ago, Magick decided to perform the effect one more time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1whUHSMm5M

Shattered is the safest. I wouldn't trust any other method.

http://nnmagic.com/magicitems/stagemagicpage_mz.htm