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Other than the David Groves book "Knife Through Coat", I can't find any info on this "classic of magic". Can anyone point me in a direction? Thanks.
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YES!!!

Bob Read's book 'Thanks to Pepys' is the BEST work on this trick. Bob also released this in manuscript form and it is available on eBay as we speak!

His cups and balls routine is included with the lot and it is also one of the best in the world!

David Groves's booklet I feel misses a lot of the finer points of the trick when compared to Bob Read's book.

All of the best performances of this trick you may have seen in recent history began from the master work on the subject and that is Bob Read's.

This is a GREAT trick.

There are also a million and one versions of knife through coat floating around. Some are good, some not so much. Read's work on it is the best especially if you are interested in doing it on the street. Also, Read's book ‘Thanks To Pepys’ is a great book to read if you are a busker. It is an entire act for busking in pubs laid out step by step. It is a soup to nuts 15-minute complete magic act. Almost all of the work is transferable to the street and all of it is very good. I can't recommend Mr. Read's work highly enough. I hope this helps.

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Thanks Danny,

I've had that book for awhile and never gave it the attention that I should have. It's now been added to my bathroom pile (of books). I don't want to get too far off subject here - but somebody mentioned in a different post that you offered your views on Portable P.A.. . .but I can't find them under this "street" heading. Do you remember where they might be lurking?

Thank you,
Daniel
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Hi Daniel,

Basically, all I said about the sound system for the street was the ‘Fender Ampcan’ is the cheap and easy. You can also get a cheap wireless mic set up on eBay for about 20 bucks. I have run my show in Harvard Square and the subway using this set up and have had no problems. Both of these venues are known to be terribly loud.

The most popular set up seems to be the Crate ‘Taxi’ and ‘Limo’. Both of these units are very sexy and have a lot of punch. Voice sounds good through them.

There is a bunch of really nice wireless mics out there but many of the good ones require you to build a battery pack for them. If you go this route PM me and I’ll send you some brief instructions on how to build one. Very easy rig to build costs about 40 bucks and is rechargeable.

This is also not an exclusive list by any means as there are a to of good amps out there but these are the two rigs I see a lot of.

I hope this helps.

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Thanks, Dan...
I haven't 'hit the bricks' since 1987 (the year I got married, lol). When I found this forum and began reading the posts, my face started twitching and my skin began to crawl . You can take the performer off the street but you can’t take the street out of the performer.
Back to knives. I was reading about Jim Rainho's "Spike Trick" in "Fat-Free Mentalism" by John Riggs. I was wondering if this would play well on the streets. Much like the renaissance, people (young and old) seem to like blood and guts these days. Are we living, perhaps, in a post-modern renaissance?
Just thinking out loud.
-HT
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Glenn Haywood, a magician/ventriloquist in the San Francisco area did one of the greatest knife through coat routines. At parties he would do it with a woman, seated, legs spread and it would be knive through skirt... think about it!

He used the gaffed blade with the long pin. Steve Gokee had a huge knife made that way he used at the Castle... the getaway for the gaffed blade was a large magnet hanging on a string under his coat. He really fooled a lot of people with it.

The advantage of the blade with a pin is you can actually have the blade looking exactly like it is coming up through the coat.

Slydini had a method using a piece of fabric that matched the coat (he had dozens of samples) -- I forget the routine, but recall it being very clever.

I saw Slydini screw up once and actually cut some poor guy's coat!!! Smile

It is really a simple trick, just hide the gaff under a piece of paper and go for it... it is, IMHO 97.65% SELL anyway.

Then there is seabrooke's vanishing cigarette in Coat... this should be killer on the streets...

Stay tooned...
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On 2003-01-31 13:10, Pete Biro wrote:
Then there is seabrooke's vanishing cigarette in Coat... this should be killer on the streets...

Stay tooned...


Not to go to far off topic but almost anything ever published by Mr. Seabrooke or Mr. McComb and more than a couple of things by you sir are perfect magic for the streets (I have been longing to come up with a routine to justify a purchase a set of your plumbers pipes from Steven’s).

The actual magic I do on the streets is almost identical to any stand up show I would do in cabaret.

Hi impact, tremendously visual, heavy audience participation, etc..

I have recently gone into the subway to work for the winter. I have been closing my show with Mr. Seabrook’s wallet routine that I learned from the lecture tape he put out with Pat Page and Vic Pinto. I can’t use fire down in the hole so I adapted Mr. McCombs vanish of a credit card when he does the wallet to the Seabrooke routine. It is absolutely a killer effect.

My “middler” is Mr. McCombs “Stage Sponges Routine” that I picked up in manuscript form from H&R books in Texas. It is just unbelievable.

It amazes me that more street guys haven’t caught on to the fact that ‘Street Magic’ when done right is basically cabaret style stand up done on the street.

The bits, the jokes, the magic, the ability to manage the audience, are all almost identical. The biggest difference is in drawing the crowd and getting them to cough up the cash at the end of the show.

I can’t tell you how glad I am to see you here Pete, I hope you join us more often. I also hope you change your mind about trying out Hollyweird I bet you’d make a killin’. Smile

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Glad to be here... ooops gotta go dinner is ready... Smile
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Magic Christian does an excellent Knife through Coat which can be found in his lecture notes.
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Hey pete!

That Glenn Haywood routine you mentioned is the "Steve Shepard Knife Thru Coat" that was originally put out by Golden Gate Magic. It was one sheet of directions, with the gaff, which was originally made for a matching folding pocket knife. Great stuff!

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