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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
Why?
Why not? |
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Neznarf Inner circle NY then AZ now 1840 Posts |
If it's Hot, I will roll up my sleeves.
If it's comfortable I leave them down.
"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain."
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
The question should be:
When you perform magic/tricks/effects (I AM assuming you are a magician) for an audience (anywhere from 1 person on up)... Do you roll your sleeves up? Why? Why not? |
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gsidhe Inner circle Michigan 1725 Posts |
Heh...Generally, I don't wear sleeves at all. But I am strictly a character magician.
When I did more traditional stuff (many many years ago) I would always roll my sleeves up. It just eliminates the accusations of "It went up your sleeve" and the like. Also it takes some of the formality out of the act, so audience members relax a bit more, makes the magician more relatable, and a relaxed audience is more likely to miss a move than one who is uptight. How was that for an answer? Gwyd |
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
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On 2007-05-03 13:21, gsidhe wrote: If NOT wearing sleeves is part of your character, that’s one thing. I understand. But I wonder about those who DO roll their sleeves. To me, IMHO, it spells weakness on the performer. By doing so means, I think, that the performer is letting the audience control him/her. Once that subtle sign of submission shows, then the audience can start to dictate other events of disturbance. Why should I have to prove to them that there is nothing up my sleeve? Or for that matter, do I have to prove that the cards aren’t “trick cards”, etc. I feel as a performer, it is MY job to control the audience. If they want to think it’s up the sleeve, let them, who cares? Plus, I don’t think rolling them up will dissuade them from thinking something else. Besides, aren’t you wearing something nice? Maybe even special? Or, even yet, a little expensive? Why ruin your nice clothes? Don’t cha wanna look good? There are too many stereotypes in magic and I think magicians play into it. If you are strong and confident then that will show to the audience. There is no need to prove anything other than being a polished performer who is in total control, complete control. If everything looks good then they will accept you as a seasoned professional and once you establish that, everything else will be easy. So that is why I wonder about those who roll up. |
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JackScratch Inner circle 2151 Posts |
For effect, I will always remove my Jacket and roll up my sleeves when performing "The Hoppinh Halves". It easily doubles the effect of the performance.
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
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On 2007-05-04 08:42, JackScratch wrote: Could you please explain HOW? |
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tajkuri New user Finland 41 Posts |
Depends on what I do. Coins, I roll my sleeves up at some point of the routine, usually just after I sleeved a coin. Otherwise, I don't usually bother.
Funny think about sleeves: once I performed Las Vegas Leaper (those who don't know, it's tent vanish routine) to my friends n a crowdy place. I was just vanishing the second card, and someone accidentally bumbed me, and I almost dropped the card I was vanishing. They all thought it was earlier card I dropped, and that it came from my sleeve. Layman logic. |
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ChristopherM Special user UK 844 Posts |
Yes I do usually roll them back before performing; it establishes the parameters at the outset. Also it usually contributes toward softening-up any hard-to-please characters you may encounter.
Having said that, I was asked a few weeks back if a card went up my sleeve, even though it was pulled up to my elbow. Doesn't always convince the audience, it seems. |
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
A great magician once said; "If they think you did SOMETHING, you're dead. Even if they don't know what you did, it doesn't matter. As long as they THINK you did something..."
Don't give them that chance. Another great magician once said: "Don't run if you are NOT being chased". |
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Magic_Steve Inner circle Maryland 1476 Posts |
I always roll my sleeves up. In my opinion, it sends them a subtle message that I'm not trying to hide anything. And like mentioned, it can help to soften up the hard specs, the ones that think of EVERYTHING.
One time I did a quick d-lite routine, and when I 'stomped' it on the ground, the guy thought it went up my pants! Needless to say, I told him he'd just have to take my word for it that it most certainly did not. Best, Steve |
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JackScratch Inner circle 2151 Posts |
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On 2007-05-04 08:53, Justin Style wrote: I would have thought it obvious. Rolling up my sleaves removes the only obvious method of executing the effect. My audience now has no explanation rather than a possible one. Suspension of Disbelief. |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
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On 2007-05-03 14:09, Justin Style wrote: I've seen a few seasoned professionals, very much in control, with their sleeves rolled up- and they looked GREAT to me. I like a performer who's not afraid to roll up his sleeves, oh yeah. |
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
"I've seen a few seasoned professionals, very much in control, with their sleeves rolled up- and they looked GREAT to me. I like a performer who's not afraid to roll up his sleeves, oh yeah."
I believe it's a sign of weakness. If you want to roll your sleeves up when you work on my car, that's fine. But, if you are performing for me, I would hope you would have more respect than to assume I think it’s up your sleeve. What are you trying to prove by rolling your sleeves up? Are you trying to convince a few in the audience that there is nothing up there? If so, what are you saying to those in the audience that don't think like that? I really think when you do roll up, that you are scared of the audience and therefore, allowing them to control the situation. |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
I disagree. I think maybe the one who doesn't roll up his sleeves is afraid.
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
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On 2007-05-07 09:12, magicalaurie wrote: OK, I guess you know everything. |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
Nope. I just don't think THIS guy is afraid of his audience.
http://www.newyorkcoinmagic.net/images/S......0041.jpg |
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
There you go. My point exactly! Now we're on the same page...
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
I don't know about that, either.
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Justin Style Inner circle 2010 Posts |
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On 2007-05-07 09:32, magicalaurie wrote: Are you a Magician? Do you perform? Could you tell me a little about yourself? What are your credentials? From what experience do you speak? I have no idea who you are? |
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