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morgandollarman
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Hi can someone who has this set let me know if there is much of a difference between this set and a regular Morgan, i.e size wise .I know the set is shaved but is it quite noticeable,and yes I have emailed Jamie but he's away for 9 days so I would like someone who has this to give me an idea,cause I'm looking at the expanded set or the Deans set, so any help would be nice before I purchase one or the other.

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shaun.
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Shaun,

I Have it and it is quite amazing. Oh...Yes the coins are shaved. The work is excellent. There are some pros and cons just like anything. The great thing about it is that they look and feel fantastic. You can put a reg expanded shell over the Dean's set shell making it 3 in one. I kinda like using an expanded shell. Reason is... it fits any regular Morgan. I also have a Schoolcraft Expanded and it is wonderful. For the buck....I highly recomend a Johnson Expanded Morgan shell. Certainly there is a difference.... but it is so minute, even magicians can't really tell which shell is which. The problem is that there seem to be a shortage..silve coin wise.

I hope this info helps you make a decision.

Good luck,

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Thanks Rannie for your response. You know what its like when your trying to get the right gaff. I don't want to make the mistake and then wish I had gone for one of the others, you see I already have some nice soft Morgans but was looking for a shell to go with them but the expanded might not fit the coins I have so that's why I was at a crossroads to which turn to take. I would prefer an expanded as I did want to keep the coins to the actual size, that's why I was curious about the Dean's set. It's like being a kid in a sweet shop and don't know which to buy, it's not a money thing it's getting the right use out of my coins.
But thanks again.




Rannie just one last thing with the Dean's set, is there much shaved off next to a regular Morgan. I am swaying more to the Dean's set in soft Morgans because I would have all the coins re-edged and they would be better for edge grip and palming.
I keep looking at the coins on Jamie's site, so if I did go with these I think my regular Morgans would end up as my practice coins as I would end up using the deans set for working with spectators. This is why I am curious about the size of the coins.
Thanks again

Best,

shaun
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Then go for the Dean's set and get a johnson xpanded shell. That was my initial set up.
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If you can afford it, go with the Dean's Set. Like Rannie said it will give you more options, you could fit a expanded shell over this shell, the edges will be remilled for easier working, and if you really wanted to go all out, you could have your other coins shaved and remilled to fit the shell as well. Jamie will even use your morgans to make up the set if you send them to you. You would also have a true collector set to add to your collection that keeps it's resale value.


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Thanks to you all I think I'll be contacting jamie when he gets back and get a deans set, I will also ask about my reg morgans aswell and see about gettin them remilled to fit the shell,may aswell push the boat out.Cheers

shaun.
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Jamie won;t make a expanded shell for your morgans most likly, I asked him about that once and he said that they don;t look very good cause of distortion and he don;t like to make somthing not perfect basiclly
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I have to add that I bought a Dean's set of Barbers last year and the smaller size of the coins WAS noticeable to me – to the extent that I've decided to either stick with exp [ and regular size halves or move to a Dean's set of Morgans.

BTW Rannie, what is the finish on the Johnson Morgan exp [? Uncirculated or Soft?
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Now you have me wondering rutabaga with the size ? if your Dean's set of Barbers WAS noticeable ,then woulden't there be a noticable difference even with a morgans dean set compared to reg morgans.I'm confused now as I would like the morgans to keep as much size as possible so now I am re thinking whether or not to go E[ or deans, if the deans set is quite noticable next to reg morgans then I would end up with an E[ set instead .

Has anyone got a pic of one coin from a deans set in morgans and a reg morgan to compare them side by side just for comparison.I don't think this would breech any secrets as they are just 2 coins side by side.Else I'll have to wait till jamie gets back and ask him but I am getting restless as I want my coins lol.
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That's strange.... I have a schoolcraft expanded morgan. Rutabaga... the johnsons shell is uncirculated. I had to soften it myself.

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Shaun,

I was surprised myself that I would notice the difference in handling. Maybe I'm just sensitive!
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I believe you rutabaga that's why I'm tryin to make my mind up ,if there is much of a difference even with the morgan deans set then it my sway me to get the E[ instead .It does make it hard to choose when I haven't seen a deans morgan close up .Well hopefully I'll get it sorted ,thanks anyway.

shaun.
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Hi

I've ordered a Dean's set soft Morgans, should be with me in the next week or so, and a couple of Johnson Expanded Shells (Morgans and Peace Dollars) - so can give you some feedback then.

I had the same debate as to which set to buy - so bought a couple of shells for Morgans and Peace Dollars just to try things out.

Regards,


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Cheers KYF that would be helpful I can't order till jamie gets back so I have a little more time before my mind is made up.

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shaun
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Hollywood magic supposedly bought the remaining Johnson Morgan shells from the factory - They say they aren't gonna make any more . They are selling them for 80 bucks a pop. I have one it's fine . I did do a little to it cosmetically. I just aged it a bit (looked too crisp)
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For $80 I'd go with Schoolcraft or Lassen.
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I know for a fact that Lassen will make you an expanded morgan shell. I have seen a few of them and they are perfect. Also NOBODY is goin to noticed the shaved down coins in an unexpanded set. If you have unshaved and shaved next to each other there is a small, and I mean small difference, but definitely not something that would even make a difference. An expanded shell, unexpanded shell and shaved down coin sitting next to each other look great and will cause no problems. Do yourself a favor and get an unexpanded set, gives you more options in the future, and Lassen WILL shave down your other coins to match the unexpanded shell, as well as match any future orders to your set.

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Cheers Stevie D ,thats all I was bothered about .The size of the shaved coins as I diden't want to lose to much from the morgans if its only a bit then that don't matter .

shaun.
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I just posted an essay in the Foundations section of http://www.coinvanish.com called, "What type of gaffed coins should I get?" which addresses this expanded versus un-expanded question.
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Rannie let me clarify jamie said he will amke a expanded morgan, but not a soft expanded morgan
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