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sleightofand
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I would love to take the darker side of magic. has any one got good advice on books, dvds or effects that I could have a look at, thanks in advance
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If you enter Bizarre Magic into a search engine you will find quite a few interesting links which will give you many pointers. Searching in this forum will probably answer most questions you have too.

There are lots of reviews of books and effects here and those are bound to give you clues as to the sort of effects that fit in with your character. That being said, it's probably a good idea, after some investigating, to decide on a character because this is what you will work from. It needs to be someone you can easily 'be' and not a great leap from your natural self (unless you are a superb character actor but then, why make it hard on yourself?)

This being said, there are many here who are far more adept than I at this.

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Someone else recently asked this here, maybe two weeks ago.

My first piece of advice is.. learn to use the search feature well ! Smile
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Yeah sorry, have seen that !!! you guys truly are thought readers !!! lol xx
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Its an FBI secret operation--theyre waiting for one of us to tell them how to rob a grave and get the REAL secrets there....but I aint sayin nuttin.....
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1. Be yourself.

2. Sleep until daylight fades

3. Hang frm the deiling a lot -- upside down is good.

4. Learn to take as well as live a good dark joke.
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Gregg, I'm stuck on number 3. I can't find a deiling to hang from! Smile

(This iss frum someon who never makes a typo).

Bill (Seriously, I got a kick out of your list).
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On 2007-05-16 14:33, Gede Nibo wrote:
Its an FBI secret operation--theyre waiting for one of us to tell them how to rob a grave and get the REAL secrets there....but I aint sayin nuttin.....


Yes, that IS the secret - the magic is all nothing more than a distraction, to keep prying eyes away whilst we pilfer graves..

My advice to bizarre newbs: trade in your top hat for a shovel.
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Haha Mystcian 'member that night when yu were holding the latern for me and you almost fell in the gra....nevermind......
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I laugh so much here, I'm having trouble keeping up the evil mien demanded by my sinister reputation. There is something in that that, if I could only grasp it, I'd be a real dyed in the wool magus by breakfast.

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I remember that night baba, and as I recall it, you hit him with a shovel, and said, "No sence leaving a perfectly good grave empty".

Myst, HINT, when you're out with Baba, wear something to keep that eye in the back of your head uncovered. It'll save a lot of clawing out.
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Well, I'd be hard pressed to argue with his logic, it was a perfectly good but empty grave. It would've been a waste.
And- he was just a little distressed because he was under the impression he was going to hit the jackpot that night.

So, that was YOU dressed as an ugly fat widow ? Drag doesn't really suit you, man. Or wear a heavier veil - I thought the beard was sorta suspicious, now that I think about it..
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Oh, he was the GREASY, fat and ugly widow? No, wait, that was another place and another time.

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Sleightofand, the best advice I can give is:

1) Read lots of books, including but not limited to bizarre magic books.

2) Go to church every Sunday or Temple every Saturday. (I can't believe I really said that!)

3) Meditate.

4) Avoid eating meat.

5) Chew Ex-Lax.

;) Bill
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On 2007-05-17 00:13, Bill Ligon wrote:
Sleightofand, the best advice I can give is:

1) Read lots of books, including but not limited to bizarre magic books.

But mostly bizarre books. Especially in the beginning, it'll give you a reference for what it's like. But pleeeease, don't be a "patter" memorizer. One other thing - feel free to change, modify, alter, substitute, and butcher bizarre routines all you want - in fact, it's encouraged. Be Unique and Original as possible. (but don't stray too far from the trademark skulls and tarot cards ! lol ! just kidding)

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2) Go to church every Sunday or Temple every Saturday. (I can't believe I really said that!)

To finish your sentence properly : "- for a good laugh". Smile

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3) Meditate.

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What ?!?

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4) Avoid eating meat.

5) Chew Ex-Lax.
;) Bill


Bill, again, you forgot a word or two.
It should read, "Avoid eating well-cooked meat".
The proper way to consume flesh is rare, or perferrably, tar tar. Or hell, just raw. Still breathing/ moo-ing/ screaming even.

In which case, the Ex-Lax might just come in handy.
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Bill,
I must take offense to your comments, Who you calling a widow! I'm a divorcee.
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Hey, that was Mystician who called you a widow. You know, the guy that was telling me I don't finish my sentences properly. HE called you a widow first, I swear! Not me! It was HIM! It was HIM! Not me! Not me! MYSTICIAN said it first!
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IAM THE WIDOW'S SON.......
egregor
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I think you bumped your head when you fell through the window son.
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Hello Andy

This is one of those questions that begs the answer, "If you have to ask then you aren't ready!"

Seriously though, those of us interested in the genre that is called 'Bizarre Magic' came to it in many ways. For example I began to develop my 'bizarre' act before I even knew that the genre existed. In many ways I think that it helped as I found my own style and did not have anyone to copy at that delicate development stage.

Next I would like to say that so called bizarre magic is not a religion or faith, it is merely a performing style.

There are those who like to read about it and to write stories and to concentrate on their own 'in their own mind' performances. There are those who actualy perform for their own inner circle of friends. Thre are even those who perform this style of presentation for money!

However please take two warnings about continuing along this performing path.

WARNING 1: The vast majority of presentations and ideas for perfomances in this gentre are not commercial effects and have indeed never been performed - they are mere ideas and fancies.

WARNING 2: Once you have started to take an interest in theis genre of performance it is very addictive and you will find yourself diging amongst the dusty shelves of second-hand shops,obscure retail stores and antique shops.

However it is possible to find commercial effects and it is possible to get paid to perform in this genre. Many performers find that to combine their performance of 'bizarre magic' with psychic readings makes a good combination.

Good luck Andy, enjoy your journey.

Keith Hart
Black Artefacts, manufacturer and dealer of weird, bizarre and psychic magic: www.blackhart.co.uk
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