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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Wardini,
the problem from learning from a DVD or Video is that there is always the danger of adopting the performance style as well. It requires a very strong and well developed performance character to resist the temptation. Andy
Cards never lie
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Mark Wilden Veteran user San Francisco 375 Posts |
For a beginner, copying someone else's style isn't
a danger--it's the correct thing to do, in my opinion. Someone big in magic (Burger? Ortiz?) expressed this recently, but I'm darned if I can remember who. The point was that a beginner has no style of his own to apply. Just like a painter copying a Renoir painting or a rock guitarist learning a Hendrix solo note for note, a beginning magician does well to learn style from others, as well as tricks. After you've learned a master magician's style, you can mold it and adapt it to yourself, just as you will mold and adapt his tricks and sleights. But you can't do that until you learn what good style is. That, at least, was the thrust of this guy's comments. I'll try to dig up who said it. It certainly runs counter to the accepted wisdom. Most great thoughts do. ///ark (Is anyone else having trouble with the wordwrapping here? Lines don't wrap in either IE6 or FireFox 2. It's very annoying to have to format a message like this just to be able to read it.) |
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Doc Magic Regular user Pasadena, CA 151 Posts |
With out a doubt I would say to start with Royal Road to Card Magic & the Card Collage series. Not only will you get a thorough course in card manipulation, but some great routines as well. I do own Pearlman's DVD as well, but his material along with many other great routines can be found in most complete course magic series such as Tarbell's Course in Magic (great series). I hope that helps.
"Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you."- Aldous Huxley
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Tim Jahn Special user South Florida 911 Posts |
I really liked Born to perform. When I was first starting out it helped alot. I learned about royal road after I got born to perform and I got it too. Both of them are a great resource for the beginner. I would also recommened card college light (I wish I would have found this when I started). When your ready to tackle something bigger the original 5 volume card college books are awesome.
Tim
Andrew, (ASW)
The effects on the DVD and lecture notes are far beyond your abilities. (They require mastery of the mechanic's grip.) It would only break your heart. Sincerely, Darwin Ortiz.......(This post has got to be in my top 5.) |
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DanielSkahen New user NY 64 Posts |
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On 2007-05-19 01:57, MDew wrote: My personal choice for desert would be an Expert Card Technique Lava Cake with Braue sauce and Hugard ice cream. But to each his own.
- Dan Skahen
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Ozer4 Veteran user NYC 329 Posts |
Hey,
I figured I'd chime in to answer your question. Royal Road to Card Magic and Expert Card Technique are a must. They are the books that got me started in card magic, as well as thousands before me. They are the classics and belong in your library if you are a student of card magic. For a more complete education, it's tough to beat Roberto Giobbi's Card College set. Born to Perform Card Magic is a compressed lesson on the fundamentals of card magic, as well as a number of routines utilizing the sleights, controls, forces, and flourishes you will learn on the DVD. It is not a substitute for any of the books listed above, but different people learn in different ways. You get to see live performances which are a great learning tool as well as confidence builder for beginners to help get you out there performing. Hope this helps! Regards, Oz |
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rjthomp Regular user Pasadena 199 Posts |
Lots of people are suggesting royal road and expert card technique, which are not bad choices, but if you have a few extra bucks, the Card College series are a much better way to go. You can come up to speed must faster with this set than any other books, so if time is money, this path is actually cheaper in the long run... And they are perfectly suited for the serious beginner...
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Doc Magic Regular user Pasadena, CA 151 Posts |
I strongly agree with the above statement. Learning magic shouldn't be rushed, with that in mind; the five volume Card College series is a meticulous step-wise lesson plan in learning card magic. At the end of each chapter you are presented with one or two effects that employ the slights taught in that chapter. In my humble opinion, you will reference these books for the rest of your life.
"Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you."- Aldous Huxley
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tnscot Loyal user 220 Posts |
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to answer this question. Special thanks to Oz for sounding off honestly about it. Sounds like a worthy investment, but perhaps not until I have a couple of other fundies in my library.
As Always,
Scot Legdermain |
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DanielSkahen New user NY 64 Posts |
I'll say this for my experience with Oz and his products: he's the real deal. He serves straight, honest, quality magic. And although I wouldn't recommend Born to Perform as the first stop for a beginner, I do recommend a lot of his work, particularly Emerge Triumphant and the recently released Blindsided.
- Dan Skahen
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Piz Inner circle Chicago, IL 1351 Posts |
Born to Perform is an excellent DVD, I highly recommend it!! I constantly find myself going back to it. I own Royal Road, BTP, and Card college; and even though Born to Perform isn't as technical or does not have as much info as the others, it still has it's flourishes, false cuts/shuffles, and some routines that I find more to fit the style of magic more so then the others. Two of the main false shuffles I do I learned off of the Born to Perform DVD, 3 great routines I do at my gigs I learned off of this DVD!! I highly recommend it for what it's worth! $30, can't beat it (I honestly would have paid $50)!!
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magician8 Veteran user 383 Posts |
Born to perform is good, but only if you're a beginner or so, if not you can get other dvds already said above which will give you a better knowledge and understanding of card magic.
A.S.E |
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LauraCalder New user 79 Posts |
I like to think of learning card magic as a series of moments involving studying, performing, and basking in the success of those performances. Those successes give you the momentum to go deeper into the craft. However, I started with Royal Road to Card Magic but initially that alone didn't give me effects exciting enough to feel confident performing in front of people, so I bought some DVDs and Born to Perform was one of them. Although it didn't have the detail or prestige of a book like RRTCM it gave me a few powerful tricks that I showed a few people which really enthused me to pursue the art further. Now, after a few volumes of Card College, I'm an above average cardician.
So, essentially, if you're looking for a great learning 'buzz', I'd definitely recommend Born to Perform - but, as others have said, it won't provide the solid bedrock of RRTCM or Giobbi's Card College. Laura |
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DaddyDoodle Loyal user Northern Hemisphere 277 Posts |
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Born to perform is good, but only if you're a beginner or so, if not you can get other dvds already said above which will give you a better knowledge and understanding of card magic. This IS, after all, the "New to Magic?" forum.....
Tally-ho! And Tuscarora too!
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DaddyDoodle Loyal user Northern Hemisphere 277 Posts |
Again - good (some may even say GREAT) stuff - esPECIALLY for a beginner. If you're wanting some real world tips and simple, straightforward instruction - Oz is a good teacher.
As magicians, everyone has an opinion on what it takes to "be a magician;" however, it is not necessary to be a master magician and need to master every sleight or trick or pass, etc. (including covering everything in RRTCM or Card College) to be a good magician. Yes, I know I'm opening myself up here, but this is a beginners forum, and a beginner asked if it was a good DVD. For the most part, a simple "yes" or "no" would suffice.
Tally-ho! And Tuscarora too!
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elgranmago Veteran user 371 Posts |
I owe a lot to that DVD and to Oz Pearlman. It brought me into card magic. Thanks Oz.
I wish there were an equivalent for coins. José.
"It´s kind of fun to do the impossible". Walt Disney
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john_herm New user NJ 69 Posts |
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On 2007-06-26 23:54, elgranmago wrote: Now, Penguin has "In the Beginning There Were Coins," by Jay Noblezada. I heard it was excellent, but you still can't beat Bobo's Modern Coin Magic. |
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jmuscold New user 86 Posts |
I think born to perform is a great dvd if you want to learn just what is needed to do some great tricks.
I think it would motivate a new person, where as the royal road is a much longer journey to get some results. |
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