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Fingers
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Does Troy Hooser use a gravity flipper or a regular flipper in his book "Destroyers"? Can you use either? I am going to purchase his book and was curious.....
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Joshua Barrett
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Regular at that time, its before its invention I think
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Hello,
Joshua is correct. A regular flipper was being described in Destroyers. Yes, you can use both, but I would suggest using the Gravity Flipper, if you've got one. Much easier to handle.

Jim
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Thanks guys, you have been very helpful. I kind of figured the gravity flipper came about after the book, but I wasn't sure. I was mainly concerned if a gravity type flipper would be a problem.....
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Jonathan Townsend
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The flipper and the flopper each have advantages. Depends on what you wish to accomplish.
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Joshua Barrett
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Fingers iv used a grav flipper with troys videos works fine. of course I lost mine so its not working so well any more =D
Jonathan Townsend
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Some of the tricks in the swadling booklet that comes with his double deception have to be reworked to use the flopper. Also the magnetic feature in double decpetion permits some clever options.
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Fingers
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I know what you are saying Mr. Townsend, that is why I was asking about it. I appreciate the help. Its good to know these things, so I have an idea of what I am getting myself into.

Sorry to hear about your flipper Barrett, hope you didn't pay too much for it. Thanks for your input.....
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Jonathan Townsend
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For folks who own the Swadling coin set, the mechanics really does allow a clean setup for vanishes done from a fanned display of coins at your fingertips (toss, drop or just a shake Smile )

What the flipper permits which the flopper does not, is the hands off vanish of a coin from under a tabled glass without having to smack/bounce the surface. You could smack/bounce the surface but that's not always possible at someone's glass top coffee table.
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Joshua Barrett
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Jon, if I toss, drop my grav flipper, it closes.... so I'm a bit confused to what your saying
Jonathan Townsend
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The flipper can go from two to one just by letting it go. The flopper needs some more help.
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Joshua Barrett
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Ahh you mean like how you can't lay it flat?
Jonathan Townsend
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The flipper will flip unless you keep it flat (rim of glass does nicely) while the flopper will not flip unless you flip it. Sorry... trying to give you a sensible answer while not exposing is tough. Smile
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Fingers
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I know what you are talking about Mr. Townsend. One of the things you mentioned which "particularly" draws my interest is the application of a flipper/flopper as it applies to a fanned display of coins at your fingertips. I have not been educated in the mechanics of this type application, which I have a "great desire" to acquire and study.....
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Joshua Barrett
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Troy hooser does a lot with a fanned display with the gimmick
Jonathan Townsend
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The base mechanics for that application has been in print for just under a hundred years and was popularized when David Roth showed his CTT using a folder. The Swadling item uses the flipper to go "one better" and his double deception has the opening mechanics facilitated by the magnetic features.

Aside from Swadling's use of electromagnetism to save an abrupt motion to use inertia at an awkward moment this stuff is pretty much incremental improvements on what Hoffmann suggested way back in "More Magic". Imagine all the time and money you could save just by reading a few good books. Smile
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Fingers
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Thanks guys, my eyes are opening wider. This is one area I haven't worked on as of yet, but I intend on doing so.

I am sure I will be asking a lot of questions in the near future along these lines and I hope you will be as gracious as in the past in directing me on the right path Mr. Townsend. I know your knowledge in this arena is unsurpassed. I am definately going to want to tap that knowledge. You have already answered some of my questions in just the few lines above and I appreciate it.....
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Joshua Barrett
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I recently got a flopper again, and a great routine with it it think is fire coins re-lit from eric jones. iv been mad I couldn't do it for some time after losing my first one
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Glad to hear you have a new "flopper". Haven't seen that routine, but it sounds good.....
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Jonathan Townsend
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Where the flipper will flip if left on to its nature, the flopper will safely show two even on a volunteer's hand. And so the wise are well advised to use both where appropriate which is most of the time - and ask for the Swadling option when you can. Smile
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