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Mr Rubiks
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What would you consider the best palm to use when palming off a small packet? That is to say, you have a 12 card packet and need to palm 3 cards off. I find this to be a tricky maneuver. Am I alone?
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On 2007-06-03 13:44, Mr Rubiks wrote:
What would you consider the best palm to use when palming off a small packet? That is to say, you have a 12 card packet and need to palm 3 cards off. I find this to be a tricky maneuver. Am I alone?


Erdnase Top Palm. get a break below three cards, then pivot them out into palm.
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Which palm is best depends on the context it's used in. There is NO one correct answer. If there was, there would only be on method.

What are the performing conditions?
Seated or standing?
Are the cards on top, in the middle somewhere or on the bottom of the packet?
What is the effect? The methods can be different depending on what is acceptable proceedure.

Or if you don't want to be bothered with too much thinking: the gamblers cop.

:)
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I've actually thought about the gambler's cop. The routine is done standing, possibly surrounded. I would much rather cop than top palm. But how to unload the 3 cards? A pocket, yes... but what's the reason for going to the pocket? No surface available.

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On 2007-06-03 15:28, Mr Rubiks wrote:
I've actually thought about the gambler's cop. The routine is done standing, possibly surrounded. I would much rather cop than top palm. But how to unload the 3 cards? A pocket, yes... but what's the reason for going to the pocket? No surface available.

Rubiks


I'm a little confused. What exactly is the routine you are working on?
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On 2007-06-03 15:12, wsduncan wrote:
Which palm is best depends on the context it's used in. There is NO one correct answer. If there was, there would only be on method.

What are the performing conditions?
Seated or standing?
Are the cards on top, in the middle somewhere or on the bottom of the packet?
What is the effect? The methods can be different depending on what is acceptable proceedure.

Or if you don't want to be bothered with too much thinking: the gamblers cop.

:)


Your right, it is not as if there is one right answer. What works in some situations with some amounts of cards may very well fall dead in another. Just the number of cards is not enough information.

Gamblers cop can get nailed from a bad angle. This is directly related to conditions. What is going on in the rest of the effect? Can cover be gained from presentational ideas? All sorts of things.
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Mr Rubiks
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I apologize for digressing.... the routine notwithstanding, I am having problems getting into position for the palm. I can't seem to maintain, let alone secure the break, without some serious tells. Do you catch the break with the pinkie or thumb? I just can't get the knack of palming off a small packet. Any good DVDs out there?

Rubiks
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On 2007-06-03 17:44, Mr Rubiks wrote:
I apologize for digressing.... the routine notwithstanding, I am having problems getting into position for the palm. I can't seem to maintain, let alone secure the break, without some serious tells. Do you catch the break with the pinkie or thumb? I just can't get the knack of palming off a small packet. Any good DVDs out there?

Rubiks



If you are doing a top palm, pinky count or thumb count to get your break. Or you can also just spread out the cards, then when squaring, get a break (make sure you have a reason for doing this). Or if you want to do a bottom palm, buckle to get your break. Its very easy.
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Skinning the Hand - Erdnase - Springs to mind.
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It all depends on the situation, but for a standard situation(with the deck held parallel to floor) I use Bob White's Small Packet Palm. It is Bob's original palm based on the Erdnase Top Palm. It looks perfectly natural and your hands look perfectly relaxed. You can get it on his DVD or in his lecture notes.
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I would say that this is a discussion for the secret session . . .
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