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...and surely proof of what we workers in the Dark Arts (oh, and ER departments) have known for centuries...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6723911.stm
(And this is the BBC, so must be true)
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No comments? Then let's start the debate:
- observer bias? (Causing a type II statistical error.)
- brain = 90% water; moon influences water (e.g. tides), thus Moon influences Brain.

Or does the Virgin/Mother/Hag rule all of us men?
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Of course the Moon causes negative effects on us! It's about time the cops begin protecting us durring these crisis times Smile
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My wife also swears by this.
She won't shut up about it until I bite her.

However, this is one problem with the whole argument - since it's based on the presumption that it's the moon's gravity, being inline with the earth and sun, that causes these effects, it should be equally effective at causing lunacy during new moons as well. Only thing is, no one claims that new moons cause upswings in weird behavior, at least, not that I've heard of.
Maybe it's the combo of the add'l light at nighttime and gravity ... yeah, right ..
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http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/173/12/1498

I also plan to publish a study that looked at the rates of visits and codes over a 5 year period to a busy downtown ER - showed no differences - even broken down to the quarterly moon phases.

Great myth - great for stories - not really been proven. My favourite whacky explanation (from the 70s!!!) is the "wet brain" being subjected to tidal forces.

Sigh.
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Well, I'd like to see hard proof one way or the other. However, I have seen the effect in operation, and there seems to be something to it. The explanation? Who knows? The idea of tidal pull is absurd on the surface, but consciousness perhaps lies in quantum effects in microtubules in the brain cells, as suggested (not in this context!) by anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff and renowned Oxford scholar Roger Penrose. Gravity or something else conceivably could operate here. BTW, Myst, there is also a peak at the new moon, but it gets less publicity and is seemingly less pronounced. Then again, it might all depend on the amount of moonshine absorbed by the observer, the observed, or both.

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Moonshine as in alcoholic beverage would have an effect!
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No idea how or why, but after 30 years working in niteclubs I have no doubt the full moon affects emotionally unstable people adversely.

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Dr Spektor, being from the South, that's exactly what I meant. In all seriousness, I think the effect is real. Anecdotal evidence may not satisfy science, but it certainly indicates that SOMETHING is occurring, whether or not that something is only in the minds of the reporters. At the very least, such evidence warrants a closer look. The evidence for stones falling from the sky was for a long time merely anecdotal, and of course, "there are no stones in the sky, therefore stones do not fall from the sky." This is obvious to scientists until science "discovers" meteorites. Then, "Ahem, we knew that all the time. We were just being scientifically cautious, ya know."

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I for one am happy for the extra police watches, It enables me to go out for a good meal where the cops aren't so concentrated.

I get emotional during full moons, especially when I can't chew through the straps to get out of bed. Them dang Turkish girls use better quality leather.
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Makes ya sort of wonder, if we had two moons, would people get twice as crazy ?
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I once theorized, that since the moon effects the oceans tide. Sinc humans and their brain are mostly water. . . the moon may shift and warp our cerebral hemispheres as well.
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We are the ocean. hence its undeniable effect. I always know when She is waxing to Her fullness. just as the sun causeth the grass and grains to grow; just as the sun affects our moods (ie lack of sun in alaska=high suicide/depression rate),so too doth She, his consort affect our emotional being.

I stand by this 100%, using only direct experience as my claim.
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I read somewhere long ago that experiments have shown a relationship being the menstrual cycle and the moon's tides. Years of academic training later would make me look at this stated fact with a different eye. If only I could remember where it was and who said it

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Sounds like a ploy for overtime for the Police Department.
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It may be that the Goddess Selene enjoys toying with people's minds at these times. It is not as if she were not known to behave in this way. Ah, the whim of the Goddess....

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Another take on the same report. Paydays fuel violence as well apparently so if the full moon co-incides with the end of the working month, beware indeed...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2095945,00.html


(Sorry, don't know why the above isn't recognised as a link in full, cut and paste as a whole into address bar to follow it I guess)
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On 2007-06-06 11:48, JonWhite wrote:
Another take on the same report. Paydays fuel violence as well apparently so if the full moon co-incides with the end of the working month, beware indeed...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2095945,00.html


(Sorry, don't know why the above isn't recognised as a link in full, cut and paste as a whole into address bar to follow it I guess)


It's the commas - a non standard URL character, AFAIK... weird.
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On 2007-06-06 08:16, acesover wrote:
Sounds like a ploy for overtime for the Police Department.


Police officers like overtime. Police departments do not.

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I have oft' said, 'it must be a full moon' and sure enough... also causes blotches, have a listen...
http://www.dragonskull.co.uk/sounds/Red%20Blotches.mp3
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