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G.Gilbert
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I just saw a really good idea for stopping people from copying/ripping dvd's.. IS IT POSSIBLE.. to make all dvd's launch a fatal computer virus when popped into a computers Cd/dvd-Rom? Just curious, because I think it's an awesome idea.
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Been done, called Windows Vista. Vast improvement over XP.

Also some DRM systems pretty much do that.

Though why specifically do you want folks to be unable to watch the DVDs they buy on their laptops or PCs which is where most of the watching is happening these days?
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I would think it would be illegal to launch a virus, but they can put a copy protection on the DVD. There is always the thought also of making a back up DVD.

Of course someone will figure away around.
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Antivirus programs would stop it. There is no way yet to prevent people from copying DVDs. If it can be watched, then it can be copied. You really don't have to know anything about copy protection or hacking to do it either. There are free programs that do it for you. So it is really up to each person to decide what is ethical.
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Remember the problems that Sony had when it came up that they had added spyware to their CDs?
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That ploy was tried during the days of 5.25 inch floppy discs. It never really took off.

There's nothing illegal about watching a DVD on your computer. It's even technically legal to make a backup copy for yourself (though it is also illegal to circumvent the protection on the DVD, so it's a catch 22).

These days it just wouldn't play in a legal sense. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in the US has all sorts of rules and regulations regarding the dissemination of malicious code.

"...Knowingly causing the transmission of a program, information, code, or command that causes damage..."

I'd say that putting a virus on a DVD falls under that heading. In any case, using "retaliation" as your defense generally doesn't play in the US legal system. If someone breaks into your home and you shoot him, in many cases you're criminally liable for his injury.
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There's security to prevent copying DVD onto another dvd or even onto computers. But you can still watch the video contents from computers, it can even prevent other programs from realtime recording while watching from a computer.

Also prevent DVD Player recorder from recording.

Only way to record is to use a handy cam and record externally.

But its quite expensive thus most Magic dvd is not into it. Maybe magicians should group together, set up a company on authoring DVDs, but, wont be much profitable unless lots of big names is willing to venture together earning lesser.

But who knows, future may be difference..
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Copy protection is easily defeated by software programs like AnyDVD. It runs in the background and all you have to do is use you normal burning software to copy the disk.
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I didn't bother to try but I've heard some DVDs has a bugging system that collaborate with Commercial Firewall and will inform the Authorities such events if the Copy protection is been down by other programs, which is why it's quite expensive to include such security and those people normally use Linux. Anyway I'm not really sure how it works.
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On 2007-07-31 01:39, Ed Mauve wrote:
I didn't bother to try but I've heard some DVDs has a bugging system that collaborate with Commercial Firewall and will inform the Authorities such events if the Copy protection is been down by other programs, which is why it's quite expensive to include such security and those people normally use Linux. Anyway I'm not really sure how it works.


Where specifically did you hear this story?

That technology would have wonderful uses in performance of tricks.

Details please
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On 2007-08-01 09:14, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2007-07-31 01:39, Ed Mauve wrote:
I didn't bother to try but I've heard some DVDs has a bugging system that collaborate with Commercial Firewall and will inform the Authorities such events if the Copy protection is been down by other programs, which is why it's quite expensive to include such security and those people normally use Linux. Anyway I'm not really sure how it works.


Where specifically did you hear this story?

That technology would have wonderful uses in performance of tricks.

Details please


I'm certainly no expert, but I've never heard of anything like that. It would surprise me if it was true.
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You will not stop the copying of DVD's with copy protection, just look at how the anti virus industry has grown. Every time there is an advancement in computer protection some ego beat's it.

As the copy protection gets better other egos will beat it too.

sell quality goods for a fair price and hope that people will pay for it. Even then some will still want it for free.
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Jonathan Townsend
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Try selling something you can't buy as a commodity.
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Ed Mauve
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It's a speculation I read about in one of the magazine some time back, referring to printer/scanner having clips to monitor our activities and how our printed works were stamped to be track if wanted. It leads to certain examples of why but I can't remember much. It's very interesting though.

Ed
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[quote]On 2007-08-01 09:14, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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That technology would have wonderful uses in performance of tricks.

Details please


Do you mean as story in routine or for people to use when coming out new DVDs? Smile
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I mean to use when we perform using that technology for mentalism etc.

As a story it's okay.

Same as the stories about tagged money and tracking printouts via the toner.
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Ripping copyrighted Dvds as a bad as stealing magic secrets LOL .we are all guilty of something like that my heart was taken last winter & hope it will be cared for very well in the future Smile
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On 2007-06-12 10:43, GeorgeMeck wrote:
I just saw a really good idea for stopping people from copying/ripping dvd's.. IS IT POSSIBLE.. to make all dvd's launch a fatal computer virus when popped into a computers Cd/dvd-Rom? Just curious, because I think it's an awesome idea.



Yeah, let's just assume that everybody that legally obtains a DVD and wants to legally watch it in their pc are all thieves. That'll rid us of piracy!

First if you turn off autorun the virus will never install itself.
Second if you use a different OS, let's say linux, it wouldn't run either.
And third it is ILLEGAL to install anything into a person's pc without their consent.

And most important of all, all copy protection schemes even DRM, which the industry so desperately try to shove down our throats saying it's for the consumer benefit is a load of crap! It only stops honest people from using what they legally obtained and sometimes harms their system (SONY rootkit anyone?). Pirates don't stop when faced with these bogus copy protection schemes, if anything they are motivated by it, it's a challenge.

Now, I'm not going to claim that I know the answer to stopping piracy, but assuming that everybody, specially honest people are all pirates is going to do more harm than good.
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