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On 2008-04-18 15:28, trashmanf wrote:
As you are the champion of Stage Manipulation, I am sure you are an expert, but this is the "flourishing" forum and for many flourishes, the more fanning powder the better, so I respectfully disagree with your warning to NOT over-powder the cards. In fact I don't know if it's possible to over-powder them!

Jerry "The Flourishman" uses tons of fanning powder and so I have been using this method as well, it takes a lot more Faro shuffles to tune the deck after that but it's really nice for armspread aerials, giant fan twirls, and other difficult moves.


Thankyou for your comments. I hope it didn't come over as a blatant warning concerning the powdering of the cards. I am in no way claiming to be an authority on the way you should powder and prepare cards I am merely as I said explaining the way that works for me in the hope that someone just starting out or having difficulty with fanning cards will try and see if it works for them. Some people like to use loads of fanning powder and I have to say ( personally ) that yes you can overpowder cards.

Concerning Jerry "The Flourishman" he has a very good DVD out concerning the preparation of cards for general flourishes and fans on which he shows how to prepare cards , similar to myself , and I have again watched this DVD and he also does not use too much fanning powder.

It really is trial and error to find what works for yourself and also see what works for other people.

Obviously there will be people like yourself who feel that you should use loads of powder and I say if it works for you then use that method I am not trying to say that my method is the best and only way and I am sorry if it came over that way but that is not how it was intended.

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No problem there, I was only stating that because in many cases it can be advantageous to actually purposefully "over-powder" the cards... I believe that the cards reach a saturation point where they will simply not hold any more powder in their pores, and anything you apply beyond this amount will come off fairly quickly in break-in ... this is great for a performance because the extra powder comes off on your hands and forearms , keeping them dry for better aerials ! when you're trying to nail spinning armspread catches, this is very important!

I also find it can be nice to REALLY douse a deck in powder, keep it messy (don't knock off the excess), then when another deck needs a quick tune-up, simply do a faro push-thru shuffle with the two decks and it'll transfer a nice little amount of powder between them Smile
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One other method that I've heard of is to sprinkle a small amount of fanning powder on a sheet of glass. You then take the card and rub it over the glass. Not sure if you need to one side or two. I imagine that if you do one side, once you restack the deck and give a few riffle shuffles, it should distribute the powder to the other side.
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Well, to toss in my $00.02, I've tried virtually all the above-mentioned methods and the differences between them were so small (to me) that I've gone back to shaking and baking. I use a huge green rubbish bag, a very small amount of powder (couple of shakes), shake until done (twenty seconds or so, as Mr. Brown recommends). But after taking the cards out and arranging them, I go out into the yard and riffle them, both ends, until no more powder comes off.
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I scanned the posts and did not see it mentioned, but there is a device put out by a company called Delben. I own one. It is a wooden "box", lined with velveteen. The velveteen barely touches on the inside of the box and you sprinkle fanning powder (zinc stearate) on top of the box and slide the cards individually though the applicator. Takes me about a minute and a half to powder a deck. I could probably do it faster, just don't need to rush it. It applies the powder perfectly, uniformly and doesn't apply too much.

Don't know if they are around anymore. Mine is over 30 years old probably.
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Unless he put out some other make of card, Nielsen's cards were paper. I have two decks. Later, the same type card was put out with Lance Burton's image on them. Definitely paper and a flesh colored back. No apparent finish and they would not fan at all without powder.
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Wow. I never knew there were so many ways to apply fanning powder. I just thought you put cards and a bit of fanning powder in a plastic bag and shake it up.
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On 2009-10-17 03:30, Jia Truong wrote:
Wow. I never knew there were so many ways to apply fanning powder. I just thought you put cards and a bit of fanning powder in a plastic bag and shake it up.


Well, that's where this thread started: shake 'n' bake method.

My own thoughts on overpowdering the cards is that excess powder tends to come off with the first few shuffles. Thus the only real problem is waste--not that too much powder will ruin a good fan.

Having a cloud of the stuff in the air probably ain't a very good idea either, health-wise.

I asked a chemist friend what the stuff is and whether inhaling it would be dangerous, and he told me it's basically soap. (Maybe he said "detergent". It's been a long time since this conversation.) He said it shouldn't be dangerous. But you know how it is. I still don't like the idea of sucking detergent into my lungs on a regular basis.
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