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ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
Fellows,
I need your advice.... I read on June 2007 Linking Ring, in New Applications and Reinstatments column, our local magician apply IBM membership, BUT he has very bad attitude by doing exposing magic on our local TV for about 5 episode. What we can do for this? Is there any way we can block his membership? We have his taped for proof. please advice and we need all your suport. Cheers, CC. |
Bill Nuvo Inner circle 3094 Posts or 2742 Posts |
I think contacting the IBM and advising them on this would be an idea for sure. The exposing of tricks in such a manner does break some basic ideals of the organization. Leave it in their hands to do what they think fit and put it out of your mind. No need to worry about a small thing such as a membership to get a magazine.
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ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
Hi mrbilldentertainer, Thanks...your advice is very valuable...
I will do that. CC. |
RJ Hunt Elite user Lakeland, FL 466 Posts |
Yes get in touch with the IBM and maybe evne the SAM and for sure the AMA and let them know what's up and who this guy is...better yet let me know and I'll take this SOB...ah never mind better let the powers that be take care of him...besides KARMA...it's s !@#$% sometimes and he'll get his...Good look'in out and let us know what happens.
RJ |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
ON the other hand, my guess at first is they will simply take his money.
BUT arren't there some sort of anti exposure things that are agreed to as you join? If so then he should be pre declined.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
DoctorAmazo Special user Florida 643 Posts |
I wonder what percentage of the IBM or SAM membership HASN'T "exposed" something?
Anyone with a book, video, or lecture notes out there is, technically, guilty as charged. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
The "rules" so many cite are actually guidelines and also not enforced.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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ThomasJ Special user Chicago 999 Posts |
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On 2007-07-06 13:00, DoctorAmazo wrote: He exposed the magic on local television. It's a little different than putting out a DVD for sale at a shop. |
edh Inner circle 4698 Posts |
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On 2007-07-06 13:25, Jonathan Townsend wrote: So what is the point of the "rules" if they are not enforced? My bet is they will take his money and make him a bonafide member.
Magic is a vanishing art.
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enginemagic Special user Bluffton Indiana 597 Posts |
At our local ring .you get out of line the person is shunned.I found out you have to be mellow & consierate. our group is small & has some really nice people in it.
theres a lot to learn out there,many interesting subjects,and hobbies to enjoy
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tanselkaya Regular user 139 Posts |
I agree that rules are there to be enforced. We all know that there are no secret magicians oaths, no secret rites of passages and no inner circles. But these elements all protect the art and make it prosper. This is very similar to the diploma system and the university. If a professor simply hands down his assistant all the information, he would simply waste them and science would not prosper.
Posted: Jul 7, 2007 1:56pm He should be prevented from entering the IBM and if possible we should indicate that we see him as a disgrace. Any magician who exposes should at least feel guilty by his/her own conscience. As a group we just make each others ability to resist exposure higher. Its a natural reaction to tell others. |
ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
Please support us, and post your comment on link below:
someone in our city did exposure on TV and now he wanna become member of IBM, we need to kick him out. http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......6&29 Cheers, CC. |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
So who took charge of throwing Mac King out for exposing tricks on TV>?
Or Max Maven, Tom Mullica, and Melinda, Charolette Pendragon and so on. ALL of whom exposed magic tricks on "Worlds Greatest Magic" specials. I hope all were thrown out for this behavior right? If not a logical arguement can be made for preferentail treatment can't it? This is a tough line to draw friends.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
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On 2007-07-06 13:48, ThomasJ wrote: |
Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2007-07-09 12:55, Dannydoyle wrote: Not to quote myself, but let me point out a glaring error which has come to my attention and I want to make certain goes no further. MAX MAVEN NEVER ONCE exposed anything. I do recall him donig some fantastic mentalism on the shows but as he has in formed me in a very nice fashion he had NO PART IN ANY EXPOSURE OF ANY KIND. I wanted to clear this up as soon as it was pointed out to me that I had made a mistake in using his name.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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