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Magicjg Elite user 477 Posts 
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So listen to this. I have been trying to get a job in my area doing magic at a few restaurants. Finally I was approached by a friend to work at a Japanese house. Here is the thing, its 1 hour and 15 away. Here is the other catch, they want magic everyday of the week for an entire year. Now that isn't bad. It's an consistent job and I get to meet potential clients everyday of the week. In the long run I will make a lot of money, but nightly it doesn't pay the big bucks. Do you guys think it's worth it?
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Justin Impossible Veteran user Distant Land Of Shmooo 328 Posts
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Tell them they will have to cover gas on top of your regular pay. When I worked for Dennis Hof, he owns the Cathouse and his HBO special, his restaurant was in Carson City which was about 40-60 min outside of Reno, depending on traffic. I told him straight up that I would charge him an extra 30 every night on top of my regular nightly fee. He had no problem and understood. So I would just drive it one day and see how many miles and how much gas that would take and have a conversation with the owner.
Peace J
Justin Impossible
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts
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(Hoping to have gotten in before the previous response:)
What kind of car do you drive? A Prius? Perhaps. An Excursion? Probably not. A Ferrari? Who cares about the job? Getting to drive it 2-1/2 hours a day is worth it even if they don't pay you! |
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Justin Impossible Veteran user Distant Land Of Shmooo 328 Posts
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If I had a Ferrari I really wouldn't worry about the money and I'm with S2000 as I would drive and drive and drive!
Peace J
Justin Impossible
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Bad to the Balloon Inner circle Clearwater Florida 2116 Posts
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On 2007-07-16 12:55, meitzmagic wrote: And house privileges???
Mark Byrne
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Magicjg Elite user 477 Posts
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I drive an older car that doesn't use much gas at all. I can drive up three days in a row on only 25 dollars. I'm easily clearing 600 a week so I think that is worth it.
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Magic_Steve Inner circle Maryland 1476 Posts
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But, how much time does this leave for private parties? That's also something to think about.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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BUT 600 a week is ALL you can clear. You have 7 a week booked. Can you make more doing it another way? If yes then don't take the job, if no then take it.
Even if you meet these "clients" then so what? You have no time to work for them at 7 nights a week.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts
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I agree with Danny. You are pushing yourself to the corner and do not have space to play around.
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cheesewrestler Inner circle Chicago 1157 Posts
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Working 7 days a week:
- you'll burn out, don't kid yourself. - you'll have no chance to leverage whatever recgnition you derive from the restaurant gig. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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How many hours a night?
600 bucks for 7 nights does not sound like a lot of money in the end.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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nucinud Inner circle New York, New York 1298 Posts
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I would try to get less days at the restaurant. If they want 7 days, get some one to split the week with you. This way you can get some private gigs and make real money. And you will have some one switch days if needed.
"We are what we pretend to be" Kurt Vonnegut, jr.
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Justin Impossible Veteran user Distant Land Of Shmooo 328 Posts
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Plus if you get someone else to split with you, you can take a cut for bringing them in!
Peace J
Justin Impossible
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Magic_Steve Inner circle Maryland 1476 Posts
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On 2007-07-16 18:03, meitzmagic wrote: At less than $100/night, he's going to have a hard time trying to find someone w/ experience to jump at the gig. More difficult if he tries to take a cut as well. Just my opinion.  |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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Plus you cut your "client base" in half, which was supposedly the main point of doing it in the first place right?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Brady Loyal user Los Angeles, CA 235 Posts
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I work three nights a week at restaurants now and I probably could work a fourth, but if I do shows on the weekend, I am already working four or five days a week. I know for me, it would be really hard to try to work on new routines, practice current effects in the rotation at the restaurants, and try to develop new business if I was working 5 to 7 evenings a week. I could see myself getting burnt out real fast.
If I was offered that deal, I would only work 3 or 4 nights and give the other nights to one or two other magicians. This way you could cover for one another during evenings that private shows come up. Also remember that your contacts will more than likely be from around that area, an hour and a half away from your home. If you take this you may want to look into moving. Those are a few thoughts. I wish you luck, Brady |
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Magicjg Elite user 477 Posts
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I've decided to tell the restaurant that I want to cut the hours way down. By getting rid of Tuesdays and Thursdays I will be able to add another 15 dollars onto what I'm already payed a night. Hopefully they will see the positive of this seeing that they will be saving over 150 a month.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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Now you are stepping in a cow pie in my book. Don't center them on "saving $150 per month". It shows them what they are spending. No need to highlight that for them. You are reducing what you do to a function of price. That is never good.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts
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Jason, The Cat House is the name of a series, Miss Kitty's Cat House is an entertainment provider owned by Dennis that hires out bands etc.. The name of the Brothel featured in The Cat House was The Bunny Ranch Two found on Kit Kat Drive in Mound House, right outside of Carson City limits, where brothels are illegal. What restaurant did Dennis own or does own in Carson City?
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Justin Impossible Veteran user Distant Land Of Shmooo 328 Posts
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On 2007-07-17 16:01, MagicSanta wrote: Yes correct, that's what I meant I was just typing a little fast their. Dennis hired me out after seeing my magic at another restaurant. He owns Dick's Road Bar and Grill in Mound House. I left his place after about 6 months, it was pretty dead and I wanted something closer to Reno, but he did pay well! Peace J
Justin Impossible
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