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Frankm6 Loyal user 299 Posts |
Hey,
I'm having a hard time with the Hamman count. Specifically, when I pull off with my left thumb the cards in my right hand slide, misaligning and revealing the hidden cards. Hard pressure with my left thumb pulls them out of alignment, light pressure also pulls them out of alignment. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --Frank |
BarryFernelius Inner circle Still learning, even though I've made 2537 Posts |
Try this. Hold the cards firmly in the right hand, but by the edges only. When the left thumb comes to slide off a card, release just enough right hand pressure to allow only the top card to move. The left hand should have a fairly light touch.
Let me know if this works for you.
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Jagy New user 64 Posts |
Try the change with a VerdnaseBreak. At the point, when you change the packet (on the 5 count9, think like gettin a Verdnase-Break tween the packets. Then, when you turn your right hand counter-clock-wise (from your viewpoint) just a bit, the left/lower packet automaticly moves a bit to the right an the right/upper packet moves a bit to the left.
edit: whoops, looks like I got the problem wrong |
rob101 New user 61 Posts |
The only tip I have is make sure your Right thumb is in the middle (right edge) of the card/cards when you push them off.
Also, practice with a new deck. |
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Frank PM me with you e mail address I will send you a teaching dmeo of how the countis done
vinny the godfather of magic |
Bill Hallahan Inner circle New Hampshire 3222 Posts |
As has already been mentioned, this should be done with a light touch. If the cards are sticking together with a light touch, a heavier touch will only make them stick worse. They are probably older, rougher, and/or moist cards if they are sticking together. Cleaning the cards will help, as will using new cards. If they are gritty, which can happen to very old cards that have collected dust and/or had the finish wear off, they will stick together, which makes the move much more difficult.
You might also be using a heavy touch because your thumb is too dry and smooth, and slides when you try to pull off the cards unless you push harder. Try using one of the products that can increase the grip on your thumb that are mentioned in other posts. By the way, after you get to the point where you can do this at a steady pace without any obvious visual tells, then try to make the noise consistent during the initial pull-offs and the 'move'. This requires a slight change in pressure when the initial cards are taken and as similar change during the 'move' so the sound matches closely.
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Frankm6 Loyal user 299 Posts |
Thanks all-
I don't have the problem with regular cards, but my wildcard gaffs don't seem to have the air finsh of the regular bikes. Hey how do you clear cards? Thanks again, --Frank |
erlandish Inner circle Vancouver, Canada 1254 Posts |
A lot of people recommend having an even count throughout with Elmsleys, Hammans, etc., but Tommy Wonder had some good advice in suggesting that you can break up the count a little bit. Say you're counting 7, hiding 3. Count off the first three cards slowly, and do a pause and make some explanatory remark about the faces. Then when you start up the count again, if you time it right you can actually get away with the slight uneveness that comes from the switch, deal off the next card in a similar fashion, pause again, and then deal off the last two cards. It's not even, but you can get away with a xxx [pause] XX [pause] xx display if the difference between the x and X isn't too pronounced and your patter (or more specifically, the tone of it) matches it appropriately. I think the above is better than a xxxXxxx display anyway, that middle switch just stands out too much to the burning eye.
Just my two cents. edit: If this is exposure, mods, feel free to delete and I'll take it to the PM. |
Frankm6 Loyal user 299 Posts |
The ÔpausingÕ is the same advice Roberto Giobbe gives in Card College.
--Frank |
CharlieC Elite user 488 Posts |
The timing is *** hard to nail. You'd do well to pm the godfather and see how he does it.
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seraph127 Special user 587 Posts |
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On 2007-07-18 21:29, Frankm6 wrote: Try rubbing some fanning powder into them with a cotton ball. The stuff is pretty cheap, and I can testify that it does pretty well in glossing over rough cards. Treat BOTH sides.
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts |
I found that fanning powder tends to make the cards stick together rather that slick the cards.
I have read somewhere here, I believe, that polishing the cards with a silk will restore some of the slickness on "old" cards.
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Frankm6 Loyal user 299 Posts |
I PMed Vinny and he helped me immensely. Made two great videos, helped with grip, body position, timing, etc. Great guy.
--Frank |
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Thank you Frank for the kind words
trying to get the nuances from a written page can be very difficult , one has to see it performed .. I have expermented with this count for many many years vinny |
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