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JamesTong
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Thanks, amosmc for those links. I have been trying to source for those parts too.
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I've been thinking about this quite a bit the last few days, and the book is beginning to scope itself out. Like I said above, there's a lot of material on ATA-style cases out there already, so I'm going to focus on traditional theatrical cases and road boxes, which can be a very effective alternative for performers who cart their own shows around.

But I've also been looking at some of the cases and tables and stuff I built when I was a teenager and performing regularly, and there are some interesting ideas (some good, some dumb) there too. So I'm thinking the book is going to start out with my own experiences, sort of "what I learned from..." and go from there. In other words, there's going to be a little humor in there too. I'm hoping the book will be entertaining as well as useful.

I'll keep ya all posted on progress.
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We'll be waiting, George, for the release.
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Way to go George . . .
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It sounds like one of those books everyone already should have.... So carry on writing it... Smile)
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George, how it coming?

I'm really looking forward to picking up a copy!

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Well, it's coming slowly, but it's coming. I spent most of Saturday on it, between the writing and the drawings, and hope to make a dent this week. Thanks so much for the interest.
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I am also interested in buying your book George.
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This is sounding great, let us know when it's ready! Smile
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Okay, another update...

The first three chapters are done and I've started on the illustrations; so far I've done a basic road crate and a design for a stage manager's console. The illustrations are taking a bit longer than I anticipated, mostly because of the software I'm using (SketchUp), but I think it'll be a good choice in the end. I really want to get more proficent with SketchUp anyway, since it's great for initial studies for set designs, and I want to take it much farther than that.

This morning I was working on the chapter on a touring tool and accessory box, and I was having so much fun "putting stuff in it," it was pitiful. Smile

Thanks again for the interest, and I'll continue to keep you posted.
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Thanks for your work on this George. Know that your work is appreciated! I am very excited about obtaining a copy when your done. I especially love the idea of using the crates as stage props - killing two birds with one stone.
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Did this book ever come about?

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I have build ATA cases in the past. You need precise tools because you must cut the sheets of plywood/ plastics and the aluminium profiles absolutely exactly. Riveting those cases is hard work until you have a pneumatic rivet machine. For everybody who can not buy the materials with resellers prices, ordering cases will be cheaper. The only cases that are stronger than heavy ATA cases are Pelicases.

There are two options: These cases fit your style or you diguise them by draping them with fabric!

If you build cheaper (and lighter) cases from wood, this can be very rewarding because you have more design options (medieval,...). A design that is not spoiled by scratches is better (medival, antique,...)than high gloss enamel! But you will have to take care anyway. As I transport my magic myself, I do it this way.
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On 2008-08-11 11:15, adam christopher wrote:
Did this book ever come about?

Hi, and thanks for asking.

The book is about 90% written and I'm still working on the illustrations (there are a lot of them!). I'm hoping to complete the content over the next two or three months, then spend a couple of weeks just proofreading. The book has gone into areas I didn't think of before, like how to pack a truck, carrying lighting and sound equipment, and how to build a stage manager's console. Hopefully, it'll be fun to read as well as useful.

I'll keep you all posted.
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George,

I know this is kind of after the fact, but I was wondering, are you including topics as to how to size your case? (For example, I have these four tricks, how do I pack them for the minimum volume, but still protect them?) Also, guidelines for standard sizes (to fit nicely into pickup trucks) and maximum weights and sizes to minimize injury or the necessity of a forklift. I'm just wondering...

Thanks.
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Hi, Steven,

I'm covering a little bit of what you're asking, but the problem is that there are so many variables that I'd have to do a book the length of a Charles Dickens novel to cover it all. Smile

But then again, maybe I could also do a DVD and then spin it off into a weekly series... Smile Smile

Seriously (drat!), as I read what I've written so far, I've created more of a "here's how to think about this" type of book than a "here are the rules" one. I have another book in the works (it's been on the back burner for a while) on how to use theatrical and theme-park techniques to create a haunted house, and I found that it was more effective if I showed people how producers and designers think (and let them use the book as a starting point) than if I just gave them a bunch of room designs. On the other hand, your question about how to pack stuff for minimum volume is a good one... let me think about this a bit and see if I can add something on it.

Thanks for the questions!
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This is a little outdated, but I figured I would ask since I am interested and others obviously are too, if you ever finished the book. If so, where is it availible to buy?
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I have a book about building ATA cases here somewhere. As I build drum sets. Its not the best information I've ever read. But once you get the hang of it. Its not all that hard to do. I do think that a well written book about the subject would do well. As the one I have was a bonus that came with a very over priced workshop manual.

Just my 2 cents.....

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After reading the requirements for ATA cases, I don't think I will ever attempt them! There are so many things that have to be exact that I think my head would explode! That's why alternatives to these cases are interesting me.
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On 2009-01-19 22:30, MagicKAmazinG wrote:
This is a little outdated, but I figured I would ask since I am interested and others obviously are too, if you ever finished the book. If so, where is it availible to buy?

Hi, and thanks so much for asking.

I've been getting back into the book recently, after several huge projects last year that got in the way. Most of the writing is done, but I'm still doing the illustrations... and there are a lot of them. I'm hoping to finish the project in a couple of months, in between set design jobs and other real-life stuff.

I'll keep you all posted. Smile
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