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Magical Storyteller Regular user 123 Posts |
Well Thanks simcoscor for another opinion again acknowledging "different strokes for different folks". Of course I agree with you (and why wouldn't I) but you did such an eloquent job of agreeing that fine craftsmanship does not draw suspicion I had to swell with pride concerning our product. I also agree that Tim should be congratulated on his excellent product and his many fans are doing a fine job of that. Botom line is there will always be those who prefer one style over the other and that makes Tim and I both winners. and yes I did receive your order and we will be caught up soon and it will be on its way. I will pm you when we ship it out. "Ain't Magic Grand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Mumblemore Inner circle 1429 Posts |
I like a lot of Jam Magic's products (such as kids' products and Miser's Delight), but I do think the "ordinary" nature of Wisseman's product does baffle people, and I don't know if "fine" wood block would have the same effect. The simplicity of it is disarming and the fact that it looks like a garage sale item gives it an innocence which high-end, trophy pieces do not automatically possess. Plus, there is the issue of cost, which hasn't been raised yet on this thread. Wisseman's die is, probably because it is plain-looking, much cheaper. That is not to discredit the quality or value of the Jam Magic version; it is only to say that cost should also be truly considered as a consideration . . .(just being honest).
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Magical Storyteller Regular user 123 Posts |
Hi Mumblemore,
Nice to have your opinion as well and thanks for being a good Jam Magic Customer. I still contend that whether it is a "garage sale item" (and I honestly don't know if I have ever seen even a homemade wooden dice in a box around a 2 inch size or any other size for that matter in a garage sale or the equivilant)or a "collectable" what not or paperweight why it would draw suspicion?!?! And when you say the issue of cost , yes it does take more time and labor to finish a finely crafted item (exotic wood, inlaid indices, stained and sealed, etc. than to have the home made look but the appearance is not all to consider. Remember our dice can be performed WITHOUT a box which calls for entirely different electronics and work on the inside of the die. So cost is really apples and oranges although the effect is similar. I am not really here to debate quality because I know for Tim's die to perform it has to have quality workmanship INSIDE the die so I am sure his is constucted of high quality as well. I just take issue that my die "draws suspicion" over a "home made " look. I have sold many of them and not once had a performer say the die was suspected by his (or her) volunteer. I guess that is where the real answer lies, in the field of performances. Again thanks Mumblemore for your input as all is welcome on this forum even if we disagree we remain friends and co-conspiritors in legerdemain. MAGICAL STORYTELLER |
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cocomax Loyal user North Fork, CA 289 Posts |
People that buy my cubes love them, they show their friends and they want one too. In the last two days 10 of them have been ordered.
People that see the cube want it. People that own the cube understand how wonderful and beyond supection it is, because of its look and feel. Tim |
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Ezzet Veteran user Sweden 391 Posts |
What size should I get if I'm performing for about 50 people or so? Would the mini one play stong even if there is a big crowd?
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cocomax Loyal user North Fork, CA 289 Posts |
The mini cube would still work well for groups of 50 people.
Tim |
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magicden Regular user scotland 103 Posts |
I live in the uk and managed to buy the mini colour cube second hand. It is a great little piece of kit, I feel it is a bit too strong to use on it's own so I will probably use it as part of a one ahead routine and for my kids shows a kid will place cube in box and my puppet will pick the correct colour from a buch of cards.
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Andy Moss Special user 713 Posts |
I am looking forward to the time when a casino regular sized black gloss die will be able to be produced. It is only a matter of time now with all the hard work people like Tim and others are puting in to gradually making the die look more and more natural. For me personally speaking a 'normal' sized die really would be the proverbial holy grail. 1.5 cube inches and counting!
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DR STEVE HOSKINS Special user North Wales, UK. 831 Posts |
Andy Moss,
I just bought a tiny tiny electronic cube, one inch on each side! complete with an even smaller wireless receiver, - it does not get better than this, beleive me I have had ALL the previous cubes, the wiseman one was good, but this new promystic one beats it hands down. - well made craftsman quality, long range, tiny receiver and cube, and compared to others electronic items this is cheap. you can buy it with a colour cube, ESP symbols, or a regular die. heres the link, but tell him Steve sent you, http://www.promystic.com/MultiDiementional.htm Steve |
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Andy Moss Special user 713 Posts |
Thanks Steve, Craig's die is indeed very good and to be recommended highly.We have spoken about it by PM. Craig's die is the smallest I am aware of at just one inch cube. Like many magicians I am still however naturally looking forward to a time (hopefully fairly soon) when the gadget is the same size and appearance as a regular casino playing die.By this I mean preferably 0.5 inch or failing that 0.75 inch cube at most. Then it could be used in a regular shaker in conjuction with other die and switched about etc.I guess that I am a bit of a perfectionist and wary when it comes to splashing out on electric gadgets.I sincerely wish Craig, Tim and others all the best of luck in their continuing venture but I am going to hold back for a bit until things move on.I also have spending commitments in other areas.However I would only encourage other magicians to buy these remote vision dice from Craig and Tim as there is clearly so much potential for powerful presentations.
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jerdunn Inner circle 1735 Posts |
Just a note to compliment Tim Wisseman on his fantastic customer service.
When I had a problem with my cube (an early model), I phoned Tim. He offered to replace the electronics with the latest version, without charging me. That's what I'd call standing behind your product. Craig Filicetti's customer service is also on this same high level. He's wonderful to deal with and backs up what he makes absolutely. It's a pleasure (and a rarity) to have guys like this making stuff for magicians. Cheers, Jerry |
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jerdunn Inner circle 1735 Posts |
I just received my cube back from Tim, who upgraded it for me. It works flawlessly!
What fantastic customer service Tim offers -- in addition to a truly wonderful prop for mentalism and magic. Thanks, Tim! Cheers, Jerry |
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DJG Inner circle The northern hemisphere of Earth 1295 Posts |
I have a mini (just picked up a second) and LOVE it! I would also HIGHLY recommend getting a Pelican 1200 to carry and store your mini cube (Should also work with the MD). They are airtight, watertight, easily lockable and virtually indestructable! Attached is a pic of mine that I customized for the cube. It runs about $30 (retails around $70, but you can easily find it cheaper. PM me for more info as I have done a ton of research) and is a small price for such an investment!
Click here to view attached image.
Your choices in life can be compared to watching a magic trick: You can continue to believe the illusion in front of you, find the intrigue and desire to learn more, or quit paying attention the moment you feel deceived.
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DJG Inner circle The northern hemisphere of Earth 1295 Posts |
Whoops, not air tight (can cause an unwanted vacuum). I meant it has a pressurized valve.
Your choices in life can be compared to watching a magic trick: You can continue to believe the illusion in front of you, find the intrigue and desire to learn more, or quit paying attention the moment you feel deceived.
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
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sharonyyy New user israel 57 Posts |
I got mine yesterday (the remote cubed 3000) it works great!!!
the finish of the cube and the box look simple and that what make it not suspicious to people. the little problem is the box,some of the people ask me why they have to put it inside and want I guess the color without the box. today I do it for someone and in the 3 times he didn't put in the box and tell me what the color is...and it doesn't "work" so I told him to put it in the box,and he says that in the box and I say no...and that was suspicious to him and he start to check the cube. I visit now at this web http://www.promystic.com/MultiDimensional.htm and find a cube that works without the box and it seems more graet from mine... but the price double. |
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
Yup, the Multi Dimensional die/colour cube/any other cube is totally self contained and super reliable. I've been using it all day yesterday after I received it and I've just futzed around with it a bit more with people this morning around the office Multi Dimensional is also noticeably smaller, very light, feels and looks like a novelty die. You can easily pass it off as a knick knack that you've picked up at a trade show.
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sharonyyy New user israel 57 Posts |
I have the remote cubed 3000 vision (the vibrating one)
and I have two !!! I want to sell one if someone want it here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie......15426290 |
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Kevinr Inner circle 1854 Posts |
This by far looks way better.. You don't even need the silly box! WOW:
http://www.promystic.com/MultiDimensional.htm |
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cocomax Loyal user North Fork, CA 289 Posts |
What really funny is in all my years of using my cube. . . many people assume that there is some sort of gravity switch inside cube so to trick me they hold the cube and box upside down or sideways behind their back or sometimes do not even place the cube in the box. . . it does not matter, I still know the selected color and when they do not place the cube in the box.
Anyway back to whatever you guys are talking about. Tim |
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