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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHw1fskY1o8
Here is another routine I was working on. Hope you guys enjoy this vid. Rannie
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Bill Citino Special user Doylestown, PA 837 Posts |
Yo Rannie,
I like it! Very, very clean. Didn't see that Mickey Mouse coin coming at the end either. Great job my friend. -Bill |
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illushade New user China 67 Posts |
As a card lover myself I should say its not even a trcik. the only sleight you use is move the card and lift it up. I am so disappointed. LOL
Very nice trick, even I read Bill's reply there and I was still fooled. SMOOTH -Lee
Magic is my life. My life is magic.
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solidimageartsllc Regular user Los Angeles 176 Posts |
Once again, I'm blown away and totally mystified. Pretty awesome Ranne!
Take infinite pain to make something look effortless - Michelangelo
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
So Armando finally gave permission to show his Rebound effect publicly???
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Verricobl Loyal user BC 256 Posts |
Those were smooth moves Boss! People might not realize, but there are some moves here that are a real gem. (*wink) Definitely applicable to other matrix type of effects.
Daegs, I think this one is different. And the Boss came up with this independently I assure you. He also has talked to Armando before. Let's not make this a big issue. I think the Boss' intention was just to share the latest stuff he's working on.
imagine the possibilities... endless...
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feher Inner circle Michigan 1421 Posts |
Rannie
Very nice work!!! Smooth...who says we have to do a bunch of moves to make it magical. Its a keeper Tim
Mean people SUCK!!!!!!!
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
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On 2007-08-04 18:51, Daegs wrote: I have been a gentleman about this issue but let me tell you Daegs..... Armando is a fine artist that I respect, and we have corresponded a few times. Armando does not own the move! Another thing Daegs.... a big chunk of people have not even seen Armandos routine.... What you are doing is putting on a spotlight where it should not be. I think you should ask Armando if your constant medling is helping keep a move that we both happen to see in our minds. A move that no one seem to have thought of. I have been using some of the moves for some time now.... and mind you , long before I have ever heard of Armando. I have all the right, just as I do doing a DL. You have no right highlighting or pointing out things that could give our magic away. Armando's magic is not so much the moves but his artistry, the timing, precision and the bellet like smoothness of his hands and even his facial reactions. Moves don't make the magic. There are more important secrets. By the way.........WHAT MOVE? I just snapped my fingers.... Rannie Thank you guys for your kind words.
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
That's COOL!
The OTHER Mickey |
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Chad Barnard Special user Mt. Airy, NC 763 Posts |
Very nice as always.
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phillipsje Veteran user 329 Posts |
Very Cool.
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
Thank you gentlemen! I always give credit where it is due. I claim the routine but not the moves. I am in many ways convinced that there will still be moves and sleights waiting for us to discover. In the same light I am also inclined to think that our great masters from the past.... Dr. Hoffman....Downs....Roth etc,.... must have played around with the ideas we are about to see in our minds eyes. Most of the moves are brought about by neccessities. We all have different needs, therefore we have different applications or uses for any given sleight. This is where the difference come into play. Some people use a particular sleight as a concealment.... some would use the same sleight for a switch...the possibilities are endless. We must not limmit our imagination by false concerns.
Now, to give credit or reference to my latest video, I would have to mention a wonderful agician who shaped my thinking in more ways than one... The name is ...Paul Gertner. I was inspired by a beautiful move from his Steel and Silver book.... (one of the few books I own) and applied it differently, and handled it differently but still getting the job done. Then I remember an old clip from Ross Bertram...and Dingle......I also remember a wonderful move by Vinny The Godfather Marini. Now put together...."A Little Help From Mickey". You see just like life.... we learn from the time we can go back and remember. We put things together and develop who we are. We come from different walks of life , BIT.... we may have sychronicities or parallelisms. Our lines cross at times. This does not mean we copy or pirate one another. It would be impossible to create , so much more move if we have to ask for a go before we move. Now.... if the item is consciously copied .... then it is just right to go through the protocol. Creating is as natural as breathing for me.... I do not need permission to breath... It was a gift given to me. Peace y'all! Rannie PS. Senor Armando, my sicerest admiration for your work. You are a cut above the rest. Fantastico! My work is humble by yours. There is no comparison at all. This is not false modesty... but a sincere appreciation for your artistry. Best of luck to your endeavors.
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
So as long as you are appreciative, it is ok to give away others effects on youtube?
Regardless if it was independently created, Armando was still first on it, unless you are claiming otherwise. If, as I asked at first, Armando has given permission to put his Rebound effect up on youtube then obviously there are no problems but by your responses I'm guessing he hasn't. So I can only assume that you think it is fine because you are polite about it and say you respect his work. Weren't you the one PM'ing people to take down publicly broadcasted video's of Armando's work as well? isn't this a double standard? -Daegs |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
That was his..... This is mine. We show routines not feature moves. Moves are suppose to be invisible.
This is not Armando's effect. It is mine. You are basing an entire routine with a move? How the heck can we do coin magic without the CP, The DP, Han Ping Chien etc..... Like I said... I was inspired by a Gertner move. It is not my fault that I took that inspiration and made a move independently and it happens to look similar to Armando's. Let me tell you this.... he does it differently and beautifully. I do it differently. If you have proof that my work is his.... I'll be doing something else. You seem to editorialize things without basis. How well do you know me? How well do you know how my mind works? You seem to assume thing all the time. I am beginning to assume things as well. Tell you what.... let Armando and I deal with it. He is an artist and he knows what free expression is. Are you one or are you just one of the police? Me PMing people? Again you assumed. You even implied double standards.... How dare you! Be careful with the finger you point. There are 3 more pointing back your way. Too bad I am not like some who would get irked and quit or leave. You just made me want to create some more. I only PMed my friend who innocently put Armando's video back on youtube. PMing other people...where the hell did you get that idea. Where does your "double standards" come in? I asked Sal to remove it because I know Armando does not want his video out. It was a whole friggin routine. You are so centered on one move. You missed the entirety of his act. Get off my back Daegs! I don't know you and you don't know me and my work. You are so clueless on how long I have worked on my magic. Also....you are so clueless how long ago...I have been using this move. The highlight or the highest points of ARmando's act is not found in the move you stress. The magic is sporadically spread out. Look at the big picture of our routines and not just the moves....worse the move. Once an artist performs his magic publicly.... whether live or on tape.... all the possibilities in the world will come up. The "cat is out of the bag". The idea is out. Now 2 things can happen.... Someone from around the globe could be doing theb same thing independently....now he is attacked for his freedom to perform his creation even if he could very well created it long before.... OR Someone who actually did it before feels terrible because someone is performing something he created in 1920. The truth and sincerity ...plus the integrity of any creation, be it in music, dance magic or whatever...is conscience based. If the artist feels clean and free.... 100% ... more often than not...he or she is. Once again...till you are certain with facts....and as much as I want to be polite....I say......Back off! Rannie PS I meant this to be a post to show combination of ideas and the use of a kicker ending. It was even originally called...."something for the hecklers". I just had to speak up and hold my ground. Pardon me gentlemen.
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Verricobl Loyal user BC 256 Posts |
If Daegs never mentioned it, it wouldn't be put on a spotlight like this. A PM would have been better.
I'm watching it again, really nice. ;D
imagine the possibilities... endless...
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Rannie you do not have to expalin anything to a ficticious person who won't even reveal him self......he stays behind a hat with rabbit ears
Daegs has the right to express his feelings so what.... we all do ....that being said..lets move on rannie thanks for sharing yet another fine effect, remember there are movers and then there are shakers the godfather |
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Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
I just seen the routine Rannie and I think it is excellent! I don't know anything about what moves or sleights you are using, but whatever they are they blow me away. I notice when you mix cards and coins you are dangerous, you make things look impossible. I enjoyed it immensely.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
Me too...Keep em' coming!... ..
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Mano Inner circle 1028 Posts |
Lovely mi Hermano, it looks very magical I love it.
great mind think alike, I do something very similar to this and by the way I have never seen Armando's matrix. all the best. Mano. |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2007-08-05 03:14, Daegs wrote: let's not go there... unless you also want to start offering censure to any who've touched or sold a version of my coins and face the wrath of the magic market etc. BTW, I trust Rannie's word that he was working on his own and not attempting to duplicate anything of Armando's.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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