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chrisgali
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My problem is the beginning of my act!

I normaly start already palmed some cards in both hands, but I want to try something new!
I want to start complete clean!
Any ideas?
Taking out a pack, open it, take cards and beginn or taking out a silk, by that way palm also cards an then waving over the hand and a fan apear!
Other ideas?
nice greets
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How's this just to get you creative ...

Idea # 1
Come out with a cane, vanish it with a piece of newspaper (rolled with cane inside), then tear the newspaper up and transform it into a card fan.

Idea # 2
Fire from palm, flash of fire and a burst of Kabuki or throw Streamers appear and from it produce the card fan OR transform it into a card fan

Idea # 3
Silk appear from air, candle appear from silk, light the candle, blow it out and it transform into a card fan.

Technically the above ideas are possible. Experiment with them and see what happens.
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I made my own card clip out of bent metal and gaffers tape and I come out show my hands empty steal the cards and produce them.

Sounds to me like a card clip is the way to go.

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Chris, what is the theme of your act?
POOF!
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Puhh, I`ve no theme....I know, many of you told me, to search first for a theme,...but I ve no idea what exactly that means!

Im doing card manipulation for about 2 years, now Im starting doing ball manipulation, and so I want to mix them up, starting clean, produce some cards, manipulate with them, after it, (about 2 min. later) card to ball, then some manipulation with one ball, vanish, reapear, throw, play around, and then Im getting into multiplaying balls and end up with 4 balls in my hand!Finish!
All in all about 3-4 min.!
Sounds good?
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What will you be wearing while doing this act? That can be a starting point. If you're not an actor, how do people see you, what do they say about you?

A guy walks out onstage. He smiles at the audience, looks down at the floor and he notices a crumpled up piece of paper on the floor, they see it too. He bends over to pick it up. He unfolds the paper, reads it as a voice (his) over the loud speaker says, "don't forget your ball." FLASH! The paper ignites. A lit candle (Fantasio) appears. The magician squeezes the candle downwards, without pause, apparently rolling the candle into a billiard ball.
POOF!
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Kregg has some good insite.
Follow his lead.

With the right music and work that could look really amazing.

Best
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A good card clip or holder is a "Bankers Clip" purchased at any office supply store, just attach a safty pin to the clip using yfm.
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I use excelsior clips, # 2 from office max, a safety pin, and some black gaffers/electrical tape.
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There have been some very creative ideas shared here. I think the important thing is to learn to think creatively with your manipulation and manipulative routines. Explore things that are not the norm and determine exactly who you are on stage and what it is exactly you are trying to tell the audience.

Let me post here something I wrote about on routining and creativity for the manipulative arts. it is something I wrote a while ago but I feel it has direct merit here and may really get you thinking about routining your manip acts in a whole new way. I hope it is of some help to you.

I decided to write this article out of numerous requests I have received from many magicians and manipulators on the subject of putting an act together. How do you keep it creative and different and why is it not the best to just do an act of pure skill alone. Below is my answer to these questions along with some tips on what has worked for me in regards to ways anyone can make their own acts more creative and therefore connect better with the audience and gather more response and applause along with it.

My first question to anyone putting an act together may seem a bit strange or sound like I am being too harsh, but read on and I think you will see what I am referring to. Some of these tips relate to manipulative magic, but the tips can be used for any type of an act. My big question to you is: WHY!!!!!

I told you that it may seem a bit strange, but let me go on now to tell you about what I am referring to. To a magician, we are fascinated with cards and flourishes and vanishes and anything related to manipulation. It amazes us by the technique and the method and skill involved in doing the executions of the routines. This alone keeps us striving to learn more and peaks our interest and curiosity.

However, this is often NOT the case with a lay audience. A lay audience does not see manipulative magic in the same way we do. They do not understand the techniques and skills involved and nor should they if what we are doing is supposed to be magical. With this in mind, the audience often will say to themselves... "WHY". Why is this magician doing the same thing over and over again.

Why? Because the magician knows he is doing different vanishes and each one is slightly unique. However the audience only knows that the card vanishes, the card returned and now your doing it again. This is why an act of manipulation is very hard to do well if your doing it for 7-8 mins in a normal act time. You do not want your audience ever going "Why" at any time in the routine.

So how do you work around this problem of boring your audience to tears? Well that is where research and creativity comes into the picture. It gets back to the point that in a manipulative act you must give the audience "more". It is not good enough to simply show an 8 minute act of pure skill alone doing moves that appear the same to any audience.

So how do you give your audience more? Well you can give them more through the use of themes, character, style, pacing, transition effects and emotional response to just name a few. Let me go on to talk very briefly about each of these I just mentioned. Each could be an article all in itself but I will just give you my tips on each one for now in hopes you can grasps what I am referring to.

- Themes: You can give more to your audience in any manipulative act if you simply add in a theme to the act you are doing. This can be a generalized theme in regards to the objects all relating that you are manipulating, or the act itself can be themed around a storyline. In this way you are performing a small 8 min play that just so happens to have magic in it. The audience can relate to the themed objects or the story and get more involved with your act and with you.

- Character: Every act you do should have a strong character present on stage. The audience needs to be able to connect with this character. If you can connect the audience with you, then they become more attached to you and can relate to what you are doing on stage. Ask yourself if your character is suave, comical, athletic, hip, sad, down on his luck. Each of these can become a strong character that can be conveyed in your stage movement and even your music.

- Style: With style, I mean the way you move on stage and the way you conduct and hold yourself throughout the act. It is something that must be learned over time. It is those little things that make a huge difference to an audience liking you or not. It can be the way you pause at the right moment and look at the audience and wink right before a big production. It could be the way you move and look and smile at the audience as if saying thank you without moving your mouth at all.

- Pacing: The way you pace and time your act can make a world of difference to an audience. In many manipulative acts, the audience is being barraged with too much visual input. They can not follow it all the time and so start shutting themselves down from even watching what it is you are doing. You must pace your act and place in it pauses that give the audience a chance to catch up, breathe a bit and give them a chance to applaude you before going into the next sequence.

- Transition effects: These are the simple things you can place into your act that changes it up a bit and ads so called "spice" to the act. It gives your audience something more to watch and breaks up the act from being too repetitive.

For example: You could be doing a billiard ball act. You do a few vanishes and produce the ball. The ball gets tossed up and as you catch it it turns into a white silk. You do a knots of silk effect and the not becomes the ball again. In this way the ball to silk becomes a transition effect that gives your audience something more to be interested in.

- Emotional Response: This is a HUGE one and can work so wonderful if done well. If done right it can make your audience connect with you long after you have left the stage. It is causing an emotional response in your audiences by allowing them to connect and relate to your character and the predicament presented on the stage. It can also work closely in with the theme you are presenting.

Every person in your audience has experienced something in common. What is common to us all is emotions. We have all felt fear, love, confusion and happiness. These are common to every person know matter who you are performing for. So if you can connect with them on one or more of these emotions, you can get that audience member to really relate to you because they are remembering a similar situation when they too had that exact same emotion or situation happen to them. they can relate.

For example, your manipulative act could be all about this guy at night who is just trying to reach a bus to get home. It is late and he misses his bus and the entire world seems to be passing him buy. He sits on a bench to wait for the next bus and turns on his radio. He drifts off to sleep only to awake moments later. He realizes that magic starts happening to him even though he does not know exactly why it is. Through out the act the magic that happens to him causes him to smile and to realize that life is full of wonder even if we may not always see it.

Now this is just a very vague example but you can see how the entire act could be a manipulative routine but now you are relating to them a story of a very well defined character with a well defined theme. You give them an emotional response to the act because most can relate to being in a similar situation in their own life. In this way they relate better to what you are doing on stage.

Now these ideas are not meant to be the bible for a great act by any means. They are simply some of my own understandings on what I have experienced that has really worked not only for myself but to other acts that have really "made it." They are meant only to be reviewed and given some thought to. Take even one thing from them and I think you will see your act reaching your audiences in a whole different light.

So I simply ask you to ask yourself. WHY?

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Sleeve them?
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You can also work off the pack. A lot of folks do this and it is not wrong to take this approach. You can begin by displaying the cards and do a few fan productions and flourishes and then steal the cards off the pack for what you need for your next sequence.

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I think you must decide what you will do on stage first, with which props?

And the costume but its the hardest part for me also.Smile

Beginning and the ending is very important for a act but first you must find the act.


magicially yours,

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Puhh, I`ve no theme....I know, many of you told me, to search first for a theme,...but I ve no idea what exactly that means!


Music, colour, costume, culture, character, age, gender ...
Try answering the Who? Where? What? When? Why? How?
Don't forget to breathe.
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Thants wrigth. You must decide your way on stage.


magicially yours,


Nedim Guzel
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Nedim is right!
Try to create something special.
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Add silk routines in your act. It would be easier to steal something as the silk is being displayed.
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DynaMike give me great sugestion!
Thanks DynaMike...
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Yes, silks are excellent items to use to lead in to another routine, or to use it for a sub-effect so as to vary the tempo or pace of the routine.
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Silks might be great. But I think they are not at the beginning of an act.?


magicially yours,


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