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vaskl
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I think this would be the right place to post this, as I don't think DoA uses the whole deck?

Anyway.. I really want to learn this I am fairly certain I know how but would like to learn it correctly, from the source.
So where do I get this neat lil trick?
Im sure it is in a book somewhere.
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Brandon Delgado
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It is sold in many magic shops. Comes with booklet, DVD and gaffs. Look around--it's not difficult to find.

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Are you talking about MacDonalds' Aces or are you talking about the David Copperfield Aces?
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I would assume vaskl is talking about this:

http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=DV4314

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McDonald's Aces comes as a bonus effect with Michael Ammar's "Easy To Master Card Miracles" Vol. 2. I personally like Mr Ammar's teaching style and I've been accumulating his vids as I go!
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Dream of Aces is great and for the most part still readily available.
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It's a product by Camirand Magic Academy. Its creator, Gary Ouellet gave it to me as a souvenir when he came to Tokyo. I like it a lot. Gary was an advanced amateur musician who composed and arranged music. His such backgroud resulted 'Dream of Aces'.

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From my point of view, the best handling of the McDonald's Aces is performed by great Ricky Jay. The patter and handling fit PEFECTLY as well as his charming personality. Because of the gimmicks, I never thought I would do this trick until I saw his performance.
Sorry, I forgot to answer the question. You can learn it in any 'local' magic store.
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I use a combination of Ammar's McDonald's Aces and Oullett's Dream of Aces, along with a few of my own moves. Both commercial versions have incredible merit. Oullett's Dream, however has a move that is more convincing in getting the Aces where they are supposed to be. This is a magnificent effect, and well worth the small amount of time it takes to learn it.


By the way, I forgot to mention that McDonald's Aces is master card guy Michael Ammar's favorite effect.
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After trying different details on Dream of Aces, I did a sort of test with people I know. The results favored the EXACT routine as demoed on the DVD. People I showed this to, all commented on the music, and wonderful timing with the trick.

Yep, a proven winner! This is one, that I don't put MY spin on!

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Agreed....Performed to the music, it's excellent..
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I collect McDonald's Aces and have all the versions mentioned above plus several others. The most fun I have had with the effect is with a DVD that is put out by FUN, Inc. out of Chicago. The video is great and there are more than a dozen versions of the effect plus multiple outs taught by a young man that is very gifted with this effect. Here is the exact item:

http://www.funinc.com/xcart/product.php?......0&page=8

I have a wholesale account there so that's where I got it. I don't know where you could find it at a dealer unless you contact FUN and find out who sells it.

By the way, remember the TV Macic Cards by Marshall Brodien, later to appear on the Bozo Show out of Chicago as Wizzo the Magician? FUN, Inc manufactured those cards. They have been in business a long time and have great quality products. I buy stripper decks from them by the gross that are plastic coated and have a great feel. I give these away with my business card at the end of my shows to prospective clients. At .80 a deck they are a fantastic premium for repeat bookings.

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I learned this from instructions published as part of the Stars of Magic Series. This version was written by Frank Garcia. He published another method for one of the vanishes in one of his books. This also requires getting a set of gaffed cards, but the gaffs are easy to find. I do the effect with a spectator holding their hand over the aces and as the other aces vanish, I ask whether the spectator felt anything or not, making it a little test. Having the magic happen under the spectator's hand makes it a bit more impressive, at least for my performances.
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Andy the cardician
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Good discussion - Copperfields version has largely overshadowed the field . . .
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How different is Copperfield's handling than Ouellet's original?
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And do Macdonald's Aces and A Dream of Aces use the same gaffs? Or the gaffs used in Ouellet's version altogether different?

In other words, is the difference between the two mainly one of handling/routining, or are the actual workings radically dissimilar?
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A Dream of Aces uses the standard Mac Aces gaffs. David's does not. They are also 2 different effects. In Dream of Aces, (which is a handling of Mac Aces) the 3 aces change to other cards. In David's routine, they vanish and you are just left with 3 cards. Also, there is no foreshadowing of the cards coming togher. The 3 aces appear UNDER the ace of spades. I don't get why people think it's the same trick. A card changing and a card vanishing are 2 completely different effects.
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Thanks for the clarification, Pepka. This has been an area of ongoing confusion for me.

My confusion may have arisen because I had heard somewhere (more than once) that David Copperfield's effect was called, or at least somehow directly connected with, "A Dream of Aces."

But if the latter is actually just a variant of Macdonald's Aces (with the traveling aces still simply turning into random 4th cards within their respective packets, instead of vanishing altogether), then both are indeed distinct from what Copperfield did on that TV special.

To add to my confusion, I bought an effect called "Grandfather's Legacy" which, at the time I bought it, purported to be what Copperfield did on TV. This clashed with other claims I was also hearing at the time, that Copperfield actually did "A Dream of Aces" (or some variant thereof), leaving me unsure whether "Dream" was actually closer to Macdonald's Aces or to "Grandfather's Legacy."

Thanks for clearing all this up. I was thinking "Dream" worked in a completely different way from Macdonald's Aces ("Grandfather's Legacy" does not use the same gaffs as Mac's Aces), but evidently not (and evidently it's therefore also unlike "Legacy").
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At the height of Copperfield's popularity, many magic dealers simply decided to cash in on the fame and started to sell old wine in new skins, namely a routine and the gaffs for the so called MacDonald's Aces (in reality a Hofzinser trick, but that's a different story), suggesting it would be Copperfield's trick (actually Chris Kenner's trick, a handling of Marlo's Real Gone Aces plot). As usual, the dealers could count on the fact, that most magicians want to do what they see on TV, don't read, and have very little knowledge of the art and won't do a thing to change any of that.
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Bob Kohler's "Aces In Their Faces" is my favorite gaffed Ace Assembly. Works like a charm and it's pretty simple to execute. It frees you up to use your presentation skills.
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