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Effective presentation is like a combination lock. If each tumbler falls into place, the lock will open.

Seldom are any two locks the same.

Their physical appearance might be identical, but the combination of numbers necessary to open each is different.

No one can teach another a combination that is his own, for it would not work. Each person possesses his own inclinations.

How does one go about discovering these combinations?

One doesn't.

They discover him if he is responsive to their appearance.

Sensitivity is essential.

Recognition is key.

The harder one looks, the less one will find.

"Seek and ye shall find" is a platitude as half-truthful as "the truth will make you free".

One can seek until one drops and pass up the answers many times if he hasn't the sensitivity to recognize them when confronted by them.

The "truth" can be screamed from a thousand rooftops, and unless it is convenient to hear, it will fall on deaf ears.

Spatial concepts contribute three dimensions to the combination.

The fourth dimension exists in time.




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Another way to look at it:

The real lock isn't in the presentation. Its in the minds of the audience. The presentation is the key to those locks.

Every audience the same combination, the same number of twists and in the same sequential order. It can be easily taught.

When you know that combination and sequence you can apply it to any presentation.
Not only will you now what effects to use but also how to "frame" them for maximum impact.

You will also have a clearer insight into what will and what won't work...
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Every audience the same???????
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No but every mind needs the same doors opened before they will be receptive to your performance..

Its when we fail to open them that the problems start. The presentations is the key to those doors. Leave something out in the structure and sequence and you don'thave as receptive an audience as you could've had..

Because you haven't got them into a receptive state.
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I would disagree on this point you are trying to make... and I can mold it one of two ways. Either different people will have different doors, OR different people have different keys to open the door we wish to open. Your post seems to over simplify the process.

Every person is not the same, nor do they respond and react to things in the same way. Ask any well trained sales person and they will likely tell you they have been trained to pick up on the tell tale differences which tell you how to tailor your (sales) presentation to open the door that leads to "yes" as the response to your sales pitch.

It is little different in what we do. IF you believe everyone is the same I guarantee you are missing the best possible reactions to portions of your audience.
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I work with sales people and business people. I train them to create presentations that by pass resistance. They get huge returs out of it. Yet I am not a "sales" trainer. In fact traditional sales training is weak.

You are not making the distinction between content and process.

On the process level everyone is the same and sequence and structure are the keys with which to hang your content.

Its only the content that varies from audience to audience, Once you understand the most effective process then you can create the most effective presentations..

And that process and structure remain the same..

This is where most mentalist are weak they put too much emphasis on effect (content) rather than the process or structure they are taking their audience through.
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Can you more clearly define what you mean by process?

I'm not sure I agree that everyone is the same on teh process level, but that depepnds on your definition of process.
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Ok the most simplest process or structure would be

begining middle and end...

That is universal in all presentations of any kind....
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How does that pertain to what we are talking about? When you say "On the process level everyone is the same..." what specifically do you mean?
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Ok here is a simple but effective process for the first half of "presentation" could be a show.

You start by "de-railing" the audience by doing some completely unexpected. Something that no one was anticipating. With no preconcieved ideas of whats next the minds of the audience having nothing to hang on to. I would also think of the effects as complete stories rather than effects. You then move on to start next effect but don't complete the story before going on to the next one. This again keeps the audience hanging for the conclusion another door open.

The effects themselves can be structured as "stories" in a way that appeals to the different way people assimulate information and sequenced for maximum assimulation of those different styles.

that's just some examples.

I have seen these techniques in all kinds of presentations from sales to seminars to comedians even Derren Brown's first live show.

They are mechanisms to open the minds of the audience and keep them with you right up until the end.

They will work for any audience so long as you pick and structure the right content.

I teach business people to this in business presentations pitches etc..
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On 2007-08-10 13:11, mindpunisher wrote:
Ok here is a simple but effective process for the first half of "presentation" could be a show.

You start by "de-railing" the audience by doing some completely unexpected. Something that no one was anticipating. With no preconcieved ideas of whats next the minds of the audience having nothing to hang on to. I would also think of the effects as complete stories rather than effects. You then move on to start next effect but don't complete the story before going on to the next one. This again keeps the audience hanging for the conclusion another door open.

The effects themselves can be structured as "stories" in a way that appeals to the different way people assimulate information and sequenced for maximum assimulation of those different styles.

that's just some examples.

I have seen these techniques in all kinds of presentations from sales to seminars to comedians even Derren Brown's first live show.

They are mechanisms to open the minds of the audience and keep them with you right up until the end.

They will work for any audience so long as you pick and structure the right content.

I teach business people to this in business presentations pitches etc..


This is exactly how my elementary school programs are designed. This also carries over into my corporate program.

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OK, there we go.

"appeals to the different way people assimulate information" and "On the process level everyone is the same" could be seen to be in conflict, but if I understand you... I was thinking of the first (people are different) while you were talking about the latter (Everyone the same) and we were on two different frames or levels of a performance. I still don't buy the "everyone the same" thinking though I believe audiences have a higher tendency to react in common on the level you used that phrase.
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On a process level every audience is the same providing you have all the elements in place. Ie your structure caters for the differnt ways audience members assimulate information.

In other words you can see the same structures with different types of audiences and different presentations have a powerful impact. In general people are the same. In specifics we differ.

Now whether you have the right content is another matter.
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It is the word "process" and your claims being so absolute which I can't grab hold of. What do you mean specifically by "process level"?
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Everyone is the same if you are hitting biologically hard wired directives.

I have several tools I use (not offered on my DVD's but having to do with Group Organism Dynamics) that strip an entire audience/group down to primate/primitive level for an instant and in that instant you become the Alpha human in that environment.

In the Thought Broadcast clip on my site I used it on the high school kids to create the proper respect and interactive dynamic . http://www.JimClass.Com

It works if you are doing balloons, card tricks, or reading thoughts live or on TV or film.
(It is not for sale. I only mention this to avoid the PM's asking about it)

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You watch movies for example they all follow about a dozen or less processes.

They are basically the same but use different characters and locations.

However they take the audience through the same sequence of emotions.

Watching a movie is being taken through a psychological and emotional process.

So is reading a novel

Or being pitched to by a sales person.
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I suspect there will be a "Dinner with the JabberWocky" that will sell it soon enough. ;0)

But in the end I have to ask how trivial do you find your audience when you are performing at them and not with them. Each performance is about entertaining them not about ego.

Allowing an audience to become a part of a show is a wonderful thing.
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Allowing an adudience to "become part of a show" is a process. And the more you understand that process the more effective you can do it.

Where does ego come into it? Getting into the minds and hearts of your audience is what we are talking about.

Ego comes into it when we just want to show effects..actually anyone who says they perform and have no ego is lying,
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"I Perform and Have NO Ego!"

What I was referring to is J acks assumption of being able to break down an audience to a level of numbers and stats. Seems so mundane. Some of the best moments and scripts I have gotten are from the audience.

Their resourcefulness and originality in performance is GOLDEN! Breaking them down and being an alpha male makes the performance less about them and more about you. Look at why hypnosis is such a success! Its about the audience. Why is Q & A a sucess its about the audience. Anytime you involve the audiences originality, you make the show 10 X better.

Alpha Males are for a pack of dogs (female?) not for an audience.
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I see thought you were referring to my post..

Tom:

There are no absolutes in anything.

No sales pitch will sell everyone
No piece of litrature will capture everyone
And no performance will please everyone in the audience.

However it is possible to win an audience most of the time. And even then its unlikely you will win everyone in the audience.
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