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Slartibartfast Loyal user Southern Illinois 230 Posts |
Reality is illusion and illusion is reality.
Nothing can exist without it's opposite.
If you can pull it off in a biker bar without being violated by a corn dog, more power to you.
-- Gwyd, the Unusual "YOUR Signature...speaks volumns (sic) as to your lack of understanding." --T.V. |
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Gede Nibo Inner circle 2447 Posts |
Fact is, however, Lucifer is not the evil one. but a bringer of Light. thus, the culmination of the dual mind--the transcendence thereof.
they tell the blind ones I am evil so that they wont sit at my feet, er, hoof, and listen to the way to become as Gods. but yes, cannot have one without the other one. but still just one. Hail the Light Bringers! |
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Slartibartfast Loyal user Southern Illinois 230 Posts |
Opposites are paired
Each cannot exist alone The two are but one
If you can pull it off in a biker bar without being violated by a corn dog, more power to you.
-- Gwyd, the Unusual "YOUR Signature...speaks volumns (sic) as to your lack of understanding." --T.V. |
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Gede Nibo Inner circle 2447 Posts |
We're in the wrong biz. we should be making fortune cookies.
good to meet you. Baba Light bringer |
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Bill Ligon Inner circle A sure sign of a misspent youth: 6437 Posts |
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On 2007-08-13 22:11, Doug Higley wrote: Ha,ha! Touche! Bill
Author of THE HOLY ART: Bizarre Magick From Naljorpa's Cave. NOW IN HARDCOVER! VIEW: <BR>www.lulu.com/content/1399405 ORDER: http://stores.lulu.com/naljorpa
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Gotama Veteran user 381 Posts |
H*ell with the fortune cookies. Just write a best-selling book of sayings.
"Words of Wisdom from the Other Side"
I asked the boy beneath the pines.
He said, "The master's gone alone herb picking, somewhere on the mount, cloud hidden, whereabouts unknown." (Chin Tao, 777-841, trans. by Alan Watts) |
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Bill Ligon Inner circle A sure sign of a misspent youth: 6437 Posts |
Gotama -- or "Psychic Words from the Psycho Ward."
Bill
Author of THE HOLY ART: Bizarre Magick From Naljorpa's Cave. NOW IN HARDCOVER! VIEW: <BR>www.lulu.com/content/1399405 ORDER: http://stores.lulu.com/naljorpa
<BR>A TASSEL ON THE LUNATIC FRINGE |
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Harlequin Special user Melbourne, Australia 686 Posts |
How about "Protocols of the Bizarre Elders"?
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magus Special user Huntington Beach, Ca 669 Posts |
Da Da dada dee dah da da
Mamba of the beast A place I worked at had the biggest jackass there with an extention number of 333, someone asked me how I always remembered his number, I told them it was half way to hell.
crappy deium-
what a lousy day to be seized thaumometer- a device for measuring a magical field |
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Gotama Veteran user 381 Posts |
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On 2007-08-13 22:27, Gede Nibo wrote: Baba, you might want to track down a Mark Twain novel, "Letters From Earth" for a completely different view on Satan. This Twain novel was never published during his lifetime and his widow only let it be published in the 1930s. In it Satan was never cast out of heaven, but is just visiting the Earth to view what is happening. He writes letters to his brother angels in heaven about what is occuring and how the humans have got the story all wrong. Stuart
I asked the boy beneath the pines.
He said, "The master's gone alone herb picking, somewhere on the mount, cloud hidden, whereabouts unknown." (Chin Tao, 777-841, trans. by Alan Watts) |
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Gede Nibo Inner circle 2447 Posts |
NICE. I live about a block from where he lived. about a mile from where he was buried. wish I coulda smoked a cigar or two with that bright soul......
in-deed. Lucifer has gotten all the blame. when really he/she is the freedom fighter. the bestower of enlightenment and freedom, hands down. o what a spell they have them all under. Hail! |
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Gotama,
Thank you! I would love to read this book! Is it in print??? -J.
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shots Loyal user Kissimmee, FL 256 Posts |
Glad to see you Baba!
I am God, I am Satan. I worship at the altar of Lucifer, Satan, Pan, Eshu, Leviathan and Loki. I am both good and evil incarnate. "Every man and woman is a Star." And I am the Son. Welcome back mate--love this thread! Scott
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Gotama Veteran user 381 Posts |
Baba,
I envy you. I live not far from Twain's old stomping grounds in Virgina City, Nevada. Plus, I used to live in Hawaii where Twain make a stop on his trip around the world. But I would like to see where he lived and wrote. You may also want to get some of his public talks and other writings. He was much more advanced that most of his day and age. He fought his own battle (through his words) against discrimination and prejudice. He was a unique and talented man. J, You should be able to buy the book. My version is from the 1960s and includes some other works (such as Twain's War Prayer). Stuart
I asked the boy beneath the pines.
He said, "The master's gone alone herb picking, somewhere on the mount, cloud hidden, whereabouts unknown." (Chin Tao, 777-841, trans. by Alan Watts) |
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John Nesbit Inner circle United States 1421 Posts |
Sounds like some folks on here should read Ann Rice's "Memnoch The Devil". You will be surprised to find the perspective on this being very uplifting, positive and transformative. You may never think the idea of The Devil the same way again. This will really blow you away. It is Awesome and inspiring..
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Michael_MacDonald 1964 - 2016 Washington 2034 Posts |
I EMERGE Tearing Away My Outer Skin
It Wasn't Mine Really Just The One They Netted Me In So I Feel No Shame In Burning It While I Take On The Spear Of Resurgence The War I Am Now Ready To Fight Gelled Souls Surround Me On The Field Tied And Soul Tethered To The Demon hoarders As Slaves To Their Cause They Act As Drones Or Rather Clones Yet I Slaughter Them As They Throw Themselves At Me And Sparks Fly From Where I Strike And I Hear A Tale Sung Of Me As They Fall Back To Sleep That The Demon CHILD Had Won Them Free I Charge The Towers Of Corruption The Servers Of The Digital Corporate Gods I Deceive Their Perceptions With Simple Illusions Entry Is Gained Merely By Stepping Up And Through The Passage I Find Is Not Blocked Yet Weapons Of War And Hatred Lay Poised To End My Advance Fury And Madness, Chaos And Entropy These Are The Forces I Bind To Fight For Me The Machines Fall Before Me And I See Them Dim So Automated They've Been Unprepared For A Will As Free As Mine Yet They Have Yet To See The Full Extant Of My Wrath And For A Moment I Am Caught Watching A Screen For Upon Them I See The Great Digital Illusion Attempt To Assimilate Me But Mimicry Is Not My Art And So They Fail Before They Can Realize That They Can Not And Never Shall Succeed The Great Anti-Christ Can Not Defeat Me For Its Illusions I Have Perceived And Thus Now Even Death Is Victory But Yet I Still Live And Onward I Shall Roam Forsaken And Prepared For War I Was Taught Well By This Great Evil One Being We Were Or So It Seemed At First To Be Until I Realized My Own Place And Won Myself Free But From Here Where Shall I Stride It Doesn't Matter I Guess Standing Still Is A Worthy Occupation Of My Time True Freedom Is That Way Yet Unexpectedly Such Marvelous Beauty I Now See Parade Before My Eyes The Like I Have Never Before Witnessed I Become A Part Of This Other Race And Now The Machines No Longer Can Touch Me Too Busy Tending Only What They Were Designed To Know Their Creators Whom They Now Lull And So My Spear Becomes The Tool Of My Expression And With It I Weave Existence To My Desire And At The Moment Of My First Creations I Realize That It Is This Other Race That Shall Thrive With Success For The Machines Require Us To Survive And So We Change The Digital Illusion Day By Day With Our Creativity We Destroy The Anti-Christ With Our Art We Make A New World That Is Seen Only Fully With Awakened Eyes Oh How wondrous This Land Is That Lays Before Me! So Do Not Despair Fellow Brethren Where Ever You Shall Lay You Are Not Alone And We Shall Stand Strong For It Is Not Winning A War We Must Have As Our Goal But Creating The Next World For Our Race Of Like Spirits We Are The Saviour's And We Are Many Each Of Us Is An Individual Victory All I Ask Is That You Stand With Me Let Your Inspiration Be The Sword That Cleaves You From Your Bondage Ideal Appearances Shall All Be Swept Away, REALIZE Your Tricking Yourself For Ever. |
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Traveler Special user 549 Posts |
Lucifer...
A couple of years ago I decided to settle down for a while and buy a house, raise a family, fun stuff like that. The first days in the house I was working on a magic act that involved a cauldron with green flames. The neighbours saw it and were suspicious. To do the missy a big favour we adopted a kitten, black as night. I called her "Lucifer". After an evening toying around with green flames and enjoying the neighbours peeping in through the windows I decided to go to sleep. I went to the garden to call the cat in, and shouted Lucifer. Neighbours heard it, combined the name with the green flames and treated me gently ever since Lucifer. What's in a name. Little do they know about bringers of light or innocent kittens... |
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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts |
Here y' are:
The whole thing: http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/twain/letearth.htm Letters from Earth: Here's a taste of it: * * * * The Creator sat upon the throne, thinking. Behind him stretched the illimitable continent of heaven, steeped in a glory of light and color; before him rose the black night of Space, like a wall. His mighty bulk towered rugged and mountain-like into the zenith, and His divine head blazed there like a distant sun. At His feet stood three colossal figures, diminished to extinction, almost, by contrast -- archangels -- their heads level with His ankle-bone. When the Creator had finished thinking, He said, "I have thought. Behold!" He lifted His hand, and from it burst a fountain-spray of fire, a million stupendous suns, which clove the blackness and soared, away and away and away, diminishing in magnitude and intensity as they pierced the far frontiers of Space, until at last they were but as diamond nailheads sparkling under the domed vast roof of the universe. At the end of an hour the Grand Council was dismissed. They left the Presence impressed and thoughtful, and retired to a private place, where they might talk with freedom. None of the three seemed to want to begin, though all wanted somebody to do it. Each was burning to discuss the great event, but would prefer not to commit himself till he should know how the others regarded it. So there was some aimless and halting conversation about matters of no consequence, and this dragged tediously along, arriving nowhere, until at last the archangel Satan gathered his courage together -- of which he had a very good supply -- and broke ground. He said: "We know what we are here to talk about, my lords, and we may as well put pretense aside, and begin. If this is the opinion of the Council -- " "It is, it is!" said Gabriel and Michael, gratefully interrupting. "Very well, then, let us proceed. We have witnessed a wonderful thing; as to that, we are necessarily agreed. As to the value of it -- if it has any -- that is a matter which does not personally concern us. We can have as many opinions about it as we like, and that is our limit. We have no vote. I think Space was well enough, just as it was, and useful, too. Cold and dark -- a restful place, now and then, after a season of the overdelicate climate and trying splendors of heaven. But these are details of no considerable moment; the new feature, the immense feature, is -- what, gentlemen?" "The invention and introduction of automatic, unsupervised, self-regulating law for the government of those myriads of whirling and racing suns and worlds!" "That is it!" said Satan. "You perceive that it is a stupendous idea. Nothing approaching it has been evolved from the Master Intellect before. Law -- Automatic Law -- exact and unvarying Law -- requiring no watching, no correcting, no readjusting while the eternities endure! He said those countless vast bodies would plunge through the wastes of Space ages and ages, at unimaginable speed, around stupendous orbits, yet never collide, and never lengthen nor shorten their orbital periods by so much as the hundredth part of a second in two thousand years! That is the new miracle, and the greatest of all -- Automatic Law! And He gave it a name -- the LAW OF NATURE -- and said Natural Law is the LAW OF GOD -- interchangeable names for one and the same thing." "Yes," said Michael, "and He said He would establish Natural Law -- the Law of God -- throughout His dominions, and its authority should be supreme and inviolable." "Also," said Gabriel, "He said He would by and by create animals, and place them, likewise, under the authority of that Law." "Yes," said Satan, "I heard Him, but did not understand. What is animals, Gabriel?" "Ah, how should I know? How should any of us know? It is a new word." [Interval of three centuries, celestial time -- the equivalent of a hundred million years, earthly time. Enter a Messenger-Angel.] "My lords, He is making animals. Will it please you to come and see?" They went, they saw, and were perplexed. Deeply perplexed -- and the Creator noticed it, and said, "Ask. I will answer." "Divine One," said Satan, making obeisance, "what are they for?" "They are an experiment in Morals and Conduct. Observe them, and be instructed." There were thousands of them. They were full of activities. Busy, all busy -- mainly in persecuting each other. Satan remarked -- after examining one of them through a powerful microscope: "This large beast is killing weaker animals, Divine One." "The tiger -- yes. The law of his nature is ferocity. The law of his nature is the Law of God. He cannot disobey it." "Then in obeying it he commits no offense, Divine One?" "No, he is blameless." "This other creature, here, is timid, Divine One, and suffers death without resisting." "The rabbit -- yes. He is without courage. It is the law of his nature -- the Law of God. He must obey it." "Then he cannot honorably be required to go counter to his nature and resist, Divine One?" "No. No creature can be honorably required to go counter to the law of his nature -- the Law of God." After a long time and many questions, Satan said, "The spider kills the fly, and eats it; the bird kills the spider and eats it; the wildcat kills the goose; the -- well, they all kill each other. It is murder all along the line. Here are countless multitudes of creatures, and they all kill, kill, kill, they are all murderers. And they are not to blame, Divine One?" "They are not to blame. It is the law of their nature. And always the law of nature is the Law of God. Now -- observe -- behold! A new creature -- and the masterpiece -- Man!" Men, women, children, they came swarming in flocks, in droves, in millions. "What shall you do with them, Divine One?" * * * * * Once you get this far, there's no turning back, you gotta read the whole thing !! I love to see Baba stirring up trouble Hail the Light Bringer! No wonder he has cloven hooves.. he's God's scapegoat! BTW, you might not be seeing a lot of me lately, I'm busy haunting the Halloween forums now for ideas and such. Wheee!
Just hanging out with the rest of my fellow dregs.
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coupcoupdaddy Inner circle 2466 Posts |
Thanks, Myst
Oh what a spell, Baba!
foreign correspondent, z and lt
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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts |
Wow.. I've never read it all the way through before 'til now; those Letters to Earth are quite disturbing.. and the logic is irrefutable (unless you're gifted with the unique logic that is characteristic of a preacher).
The one weird thing is, Twain seems to shift focus in the middle: he starts off as reporting how mankind views God and himself in the Universe, but ends up pretty much blaming God for everything in a more 3rd person narrative kind of way - he sort of let's go the fact that this was from mankind's viewpoint. But then, we are creations of the creator, so, in a vicious kind of cycle, I guess the things we imagine are no different from the things we do or the way things really are -it all comes from the Creator, ultimately. I love how Twain blows away the "free choice" myth.. there is no "free choice", it's an illusion - we are what we are. I wonder if any of the Gospel magicians want to take a chance to wander in here and argue.. I'll eat them alive if they dare pop their head in here. :bat: Long live the Midianites! Hey, I just realized, I'm a Midianite - I use MIDI everytime I use my synthesizer/keyboard.
Just hanging out with the rest of my fellow dregs.
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