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Christopher Williams
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Magicsanta, we tried to compile a list of all the books we knew had come out this year, we know we might have missed one or two, and state in the first post to let us know and we will add. As for 'Thought of Cards Across', I agree with you, and I don't expect it to get one vote. That was a book a couple people came to me and said they really enjoyed and why wasn't it on the list, so it was added. I don't myself, even as the author, consider it a book worthy of its place amongst the books named around it

Session/547 By Josh Jay & Joel Givens (one book) - 5
Cloudbusting by Devin Knight & Jerome Finley - 2
Best of Friends vol 3 by Harry Lorayne - 2
Maurice Fogel: In Search of the Sensational by Chris Woodward & Richard Mark -
Handcrafted Card Magic by Denis Behr - 1
Magicians Cookbook Ltd by Andi Gladwin and Jack Parker -
Fetching Magic by Robert Spencer -
The Garden of the Strange by Caleb Strange - 1
WD40 by Wayne Dobson -
Cheating...and the World of Poker by Steve Forte -
Cardini, the Suave Deciver by John Fisher -
Mitox: The Falsey Spoken Word by Phill Smith -
Kingdom of the Red by Larry Barnowsky -
Thought of Cards Across Project by Christopher Williams -
Wisdom of Solomon by David Solomon - 1
Card Dupery by J.K. Hartman -
Naked Mentalism by Jon Thompson -
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Steve Hook
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There are some impressive books on the list (especially HANDCRAFTED and CARDINI) but I've got to go with SESSIONS (Givens/Jay) for fun, innovation, production, variety, and the killer content.
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On 2007-08-14 16:28, Christopher Williams wrote:
*** we will include a list of all the books released this year, if any are added, I will add them to this post. Be careful with your votes...no changing your mind***


So, I guess the only prudent thing to do is to not vote until 11:59 PM on December 31st.

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On 2007-10-03 14:22, Peo Olsson wrote:
I wait for my vote for a while...


A wise and prudent decision, Peo.

BTW, will long awaited 2007 reprints of OOP books be eligible for "Best Book" consideration? Will it matter how long any such book has been OOP? Also, are people able to submit (or suggest) their own candidate(s) for inclusion on the list?

Mike
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I vote for Thought of Cards Across Project by Christopher Williams because, dang it, if he used a size 70 font it would be as long as the other books.
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Is that your vote Magicsanta? Smile I see it more as a manuscript than a book, but if that is your choice Smile

Session/547 By Josh Jay & Joel Givens (one book) - 6
Cloudbusting by Devin Knight & Jerome Finley - 2
Best of Friends vol 3 by Harry Lorayne - 2
Maurice Fogel: In Search of the Sensational by Chris Woodward & Richard Mark -
Handcrafted Card Magic by Denis Behr - 2
Magicians Cookbook Ltd by Andi Gladwin and Jack Parker -
Fetching Magic by Robert Spencer -
The Garden of the Strange by Caleb Strange - 1
WD40 by Wayne Dobson -
Cheating...and the World of Poker by Steve Forte -
Cardini, the Suave Deciver by John Fisher - 1
Mitox: The Falsey Spoken Word by Phill Smith -
Kingdom of the Red by Larry Barnowsky -
Thought of Cards Across Project by Christopher Williams -
Wisdom of Solomon by David Solomon - 1
Card Dupery by J.K. Hartman -
Naked Mentalism by Jon Thompson -
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Can we vote for a reprint??? All I am saying is 31st Oct Hermentic press
Christopher Williams
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I don't believe a re-print is fair to go against the books listed. Re-prints are books which are high enough in demand to warrant a re-print, so are obviously going to be popular. I feel they would have an unfair advantage...anyone else agree? Or is it just me?
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A reprint isn't a new book, as far as content goes, so it shouldn't be counted among the best of 2007.
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Session/547 without a doubt. Then again I don't own many of the books on that list so I am just voting based on what I have actually read =)

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Session/547 By Josh Jay & Joel Givens (one book) - 7
Cloudbusting by Devin Knight & Jerome Finley - 2
Best of Friends vol 3 by Harry Lorayne - 3
Maurice Fogel: In Search of the Sensational by Chris Woodward & Richard Mark -
Handcrafted Card Magic by Denis Behr - 2
Magicians Cookbook Ltd by Andi Gladwin and Jack Parker -
Fetching Magic by Robert Spencer -
The Garden of the Strange by Caleb Strange - 1
WD40 by Wayne Dobson -
Cheating...and the World of Poker by Steve Forte -
Cardini, the Suave Deciver by John Fisher - 1
Mitox: The Falsey Spoken Word by Phill Smith -
Kingdom of the Red by Larry Barnowsky -
Thought of Cards Across Project by Christopher Williams -
Wisdom of Solomon by David Solomon - 1
Card Dupery by J.K. Hartman -
Naked Mentalism by Jon Thompson -
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Here's another for Session/5:47!
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Session/547 By Josh Jay & Joel Givens (one book) - 8
Cloudbusting by Devin Knight & Jerome Finley - 2
Best of Friends vol 3 by Harry Lorayne - 3
Maurice Fogel: In Search of the Sensational by Chris Woodward & Richard Mark -
Handcrafted Card Magic by Denis Behr - 2
Magicians Cookbook Ltd by Andi Gladwin and Jack Parker -
Fetching Magic by Robert Spencer -
The Garden of the Strange by Caleb Strange - 1
WD40 by Wayne Dobson -
Cheating...and the World of Poker by Steve Forte -
Cardini, the Suave Deciver by John Fisher - 1
Mitox: The Falsey Spoken Word by Phill Smith -
Kingdom of the Red by Larry Barnowsky -
Thought of Cards Across Project by Christopher Williams -
Wisdom of Solomon by David Solomon - 1
Card Dupery by J.K. Hartman -
Naked Mentalism by Jon Thompson -
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With all due respect I respectfully suggest that the decision to bar reprints from the competition might not have been thoroughly thought through.

I understand the rationale for not wishing to allow the reprints into the competition. That said, I think it is a sad but interesting commentary that the reprints (some of which were published and haven't seen the light of day for 20-25 years) are not to be considered because they are automatically perceived of potentially too high a quality and to have an unfair advantage over the left-overs (i.e., the remnants and remainder, or, what, by default would then be deemed the cutting edge materials of "today").

By such disqualification, are the nay-sayers suggesting that the standards of today are lower than they were 15-25 years ago? Are they seriously suggesting that the quality quotient be rigged so that a book that might be of percieved higher quality not be allowed in the competition so that a potentially lesser quality book have a "fighting chance" to win based upon a watered down quality standard? If so, perhaps the "winner" should have an asterisk placed next to its name.

Can you imagine the outcry if this standard was applied to Olympic competition or NASCAR racing competition--or some other meaningful competition? "Sorry, you won last year and are ineligible for this year's competition because you might be too strong and win again--thereby depriving some lesser talent of a chance for a pyrrhic victory."

Had Max Maven's "Prism" been published in 2007 would it have suffered this same fate because the 5 individual books had been published back about 25 years prior? Would "Practical Mental Effects" have suffered this same fate because it was a compilation of the best of the Jinx (which had been published in the 1930s?)

I dunno. But if a book gets beat out by a reprint that was never ever even in any such competition when origiinally released and the "new" book cannot beat out the reprint for quality, content and impact, perhaps being the best of a diluted talent pool is an empty win at best.

Just, IMHO.

Mike

P.S. And, fortunately, this "Best Book of 2007 Awards" list notwithstanding, Café members can still post a competition that makes a valid comparison between the diluted talent pool and the quality reprints and they can still offer an opinion as to which is the better value and of higher quality so that people seriously interested in making the best buying decisions for their hard-earned money will have an opportunity to make such valid comparisons. So, I guess, "no harm, no foul."
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I'll go with Session as well. Joel's got some fine material in that book.
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Session/547 By Josh Jay & Joel Givens (one book) - 9
Cloudbusting by Devin Knight & Jerome Finley - 2
Best of Friends vol 3 by Harry Lorayne - 3
Maurice Fogel: In Search of the Sensational by Chris Woodward & Richard Mark -
Handcrafted Card Magic by Denis Behr - 2
Magicians Cookbook Ltd by Andi Gladwin and Jack Parker -
Fetching Magic by Robert Spencer -
The Garden of the Strange by Caleb Strange - 1
WD40 by Wayne Dobson -
Cheating...and the World of Poker by Steve Forte -
Cardini, the Suave Deciver by John Fisher - 1
Mitox: The Falsey Spoken Word by Phill Smith -
Kingdom of the Red by Larry Barnowsky -
Thought of Cards Across Project by Christopher Williams -
Wisdom of Solomon by David Solomon - 1
Card Dupery by J.K. Hartman -
Naked Mentalism by Jon Thompson -
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I notice my vote didn't count. Why? Nationalism? Racism? Sexism? I don't know which ism you people are up to but I demand my vote count!
Christopher Williams
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Vote for what MagicSanta?....

As for the reprint issue Turk...i think you were missing my point. First off, this is the award for best release of 2007, not best re-release.

My point earlier, and it was not the offical rule, was just my opinion, but the material that comes out is new. People are hesitant of new, they wait for reviews, to see if they are worth picking up.

However, re-prints are long awaited and highly sought after. I only heard of Session about a month or so before it came out, and people may not know about it or read about it. However, a book which already has a reputation in the Magic world has an advantage. There are years worth of reviews and comments about the books, whereas new books come into the world cold, and have a tough job to make it to where the highly sought after re-prints are.
Reprints are very popular, hence they went out of print, so people rush to get them to make sure they get them this time round. New books released this year, people know they are going to be readily available.

Again, that is just my opinion, NOT an offical remark. However, lets please try and leave this thread for votes
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