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Mental_Mike
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I should have my copy friday...Anyone recieve theirs yet??

Mike
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Yes, I've only had the chance to look over the first section, so no opinions yet.
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So any reviews yet
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I am a piece of nothing compared to Kenton but I never appreciated any of his stuff except Wonder Words...

So let's see how this one rates...
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Thumbs down.this is all I will say on this book.
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On 2007-09-14 08:56, Mariagi wrote:
Thumbs down.this is all I will say on this book.


Do explain .......

for me Thumbs Down for Kenton "Miracles By Association"
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I've got the book in my possesion now...let me digest this few times before I can put an Honest review
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Read man read like you've never read before,

it's about time someone gave a review instead of: Thumbs down.this is all I will say on this book. without saying why
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I'll be mean and review this, cos I can just see how it'll just descend into the old arguments of what seperates real and fake hypnosis, when suggestion crosses over to hypnosis and so on...a pointless circular argument that'll get the review locked...

I think I can sum it up as this "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it is..."

I really liked it though, that's all I can say, and a few things in it that I'll definately incorporate into my work. For any newbie looking to be yet another derren clone, stay well clear, cos you'll end up crying and saying it's not fair...

for those that do bother to think through an effect and presentation angle, there's some great things you can apply and some strong routines to mess around with..

I enjoyed it, I learnt something from it, 8/10...
I've asked to be banned
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I only liked one thing from it.... I skimmed through it and will read through it again, But from what I read, only one thing stood out to me.
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Is it basically magic tricks dressed up to supposedly look like hypnotism?

Is it a basic suggestion course?

Or...?
IAIN
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Or!
I've asked to be banned
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Still not really a review that really tells us what's in the book
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It has a couple magic tricks to use "suggetion" in. There is no actual hypnosis. I don't think a lot of this will make people believe someone is in a trance but I never tried anything yet to see. The only idea I'm going to use is the one where someone gets stuck to the floor and can't move, It the best effect in there to me. There's other ideas in there that could easily be blown if someones says something, but there's an out and I really didn't like it. There's probably people out there who will like this book. I still need to read a bit more before I can say too much.
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Like I said before, here is a brief review....if you want to call this a review

in essence this book will help you to create the illusion of the ability to make your Spectator go into Trance...and the Abbility to do Trance Effects
(Read this again please)

rather than using Real Instant Induction wich can fail, this book is NOT, because even if you fail there is an out that make it seems that that is the desire results that you want to happen

this book is not intended to be Speed Read/Skim trough, it is suppose to be read Slowly and carefully with a Marker in hand, sometimes I have to repeat certain sentences that Kenton Says to get the idea of what he actualy meant...to get the Gist of the Book, I need to read this more than two times...and again Re-Reading it create ANOTHER new Ideas

if you are a Hypnotist or Suggestionist, then this book is a MUST...I underline many important wording and theory from ALMOST every pages of this book...not to mention lots of Footnote of Fresh idea that I add in almost every pages...

if you are a Mentalist and want to make the Impressions of genuine TRANCE, then the material in this book will certainly help you

I study ALL Kenton Publish Work, and I've been a Stage Hypnotist & Suggestionist & Certified Hypnotherapist for more than 10 Years, I use "Language Pattern" in every Work that I do,.... and even now I still learn a lot and find pages of Pages of New & Fresh Material from ULTIMATELY UNDER

Combine the material from this Book with others Kenton Works & Publish Material, than you have a killer Principle to help you elevate your work into another level of Realism & Believability

if you want to make your perfomance the FEEL of TRANCE or HYPNOSIS, or the LOOKS of TRANCE.....rather than spending your money on Jermay Instant Industion, spend it on this book

this book is NOT for begginer in Suggestion, Hypnosis or Mentalism, as the perfromer doing this type of work need to have an undertsanding of other Trance/Hypnotism Principle,....not to mention Certain Maturity in his Character Development, along with the performer ability to understand his/her Performing Character......this book intended to be a suplemental of others Kenton material

10 out of 10, I give this book 10, only if you already studied others Kenton Works
I give this book 5 if I am a begginer and this Type of Work is NEW to me...
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Thank you for the honest rewiew.
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Yes, thank you Mesmer. This has persuaded me to get it.
mesmer
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Again....beware that this Book is NOT for Begginer.......the least is that you Master Kenton WONDER WORDS and Studied Enrique ART OF IMAGINATION.....otherwise you wont be able to reap the Maximum Results from it
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I'll be posting my review in the....review section. If you are a big fan of Kenton I really advise you not read the review.
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MagicSanta should change his name to Jamy Ian Santa.

I have not finished the book, and have only read the first 1/4 of it, and what I've seen so far are fairly sound principles of mentalism and PE brought to the performance of what appears (and sometimes is) stage hypnotism.

I have not finished the book, but just based on what I read, and some of the comments made by MagicSanta (such as not recognizing a standard in stage mentalism and referring to it as a child's game not believing it would work on stage) not recognizing DR, and some of the other principles, I question the applicability of his review for those who perform mystery entertainment vs those who standard magic fare.

Some of his comments mirror my thinking of other products produced by Kenton, but as I said, I have yet to finish this book, I may yet agree with him, but at this point in time, we are miles apart.

Tony
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