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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts 
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On 2007-09-13 02:05, Cheety wrote: You know, I was sitting here thinking up a silly answer to this question, and then I thought the truth might actually interest some of you. What was I doing before? Living in Germany. SOM is virtually unknown in Germany. It doesn't show on television. No one knows the songs. No one I have asked has seen or heard of it. Surprisingly, I saw it at the city library a few days ago, and decided I should see it. Who bought it for the library I do not know. The DVD doesn't even have a German language option on it. What might otherwise be a world phenomenon is unknown here. Perhaps because it has Nazis in it? Or maybe just because musicals aren't big here. No one goes around singing "Oklahoma" here, either. Except for me. Jeff |
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rossmacrae Inner circle Arlington, Virginia 2464 Posts
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On 2007-09-13 04:24, stoneunhinged wrote: That is a real possibility. It's not just sensitivity, in many ways it's the law. I don't suppose German law would actually criminalize the depiction of Nazis in a film, but many things (like the sale of actual or repro Nazi memorabilia) are, as I understand it, illegal. But suppose a German musical depicted a brave American ex-nun leading a talented but troubled family (say, maybe, the Partridge Family) to safety across the border in Canada, narrowly escaping J. Edgar Hoover's goon squad in the Nixon era, all the while doing little bubblegum-style song and dance routines (aided by singing and dancing nuns, of course) - probably not a real big seller.
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 2992 Posts
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We live on the outskirts of a small city in CA, and now and then I can literally sit in our bedroom, look out the window at the hills, and hear the sound of mooing. One of these days I'm going to have to count the cows and see if there are really sixteen going on seventeen.
Or, as someone said, cows may come and cows may go, but the bull goes on forever.
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sparks New user Charlottesville, Virginia 89 Posts
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I love SOM. My wife is an even bigger fan... she has an autographed photo of all of the children from the movie (purchased from Angela Cartwright's website [whom played Brigitta in the film before going on to the role of Penny in Lost In Space... I was in the fifth grade... my first TV crush was "Penny"]). Anyway... the photo is signed by all seven of the actors and is of the scene where they are on the steps singing farewell at the party. A side note... I recall a news story from a number of years ago... I think it was in South Korea. They felt the film was too long, so they cut all the songs out. Yes… The Sound of Music without the music.
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2836 Posts
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On 2007-09-13 04:24, stoneunhinged wrote: Musicals are big in Germany. It might be the Nazi thing or it might be that the musicals in Germany (or nearby Austria) are heavy affairs with a lot of sturm un dang (I think I spelled that right.) My wife discovered a German version of Roman Polanski's film "Dance of the Vampires" (Known here as "The Fearless Vampire Killers - or - Excuse Me, But Your Teeth Are In My Neck.") The musical of the film follows the film's premise fairly closely, but adds tons of angst and misery for the head vampire. While following up on links for "Danz de Vampeers," she found other musicals, one concerned a queen who was flirting with Death (literally, Death was a character in the storyline.) And another with Mozart dealing with unfulfilled issues personified in the vision of his younger 12 year old self. SOM doesn't even qualify to that level. (Any Germans here? Am I wrong in this? Are there "happy light-hearted musicals" out there that I just haven't heard of?) Quote:
On 2007-09-13 20:20, sparks wrote: I remember that happening when my wife turned on "Seven Brides For Seven Brothers" and, after the opening credits, the film <started> with the mountain man and his new wife arriving at the cabin. The next major number following that was cut and my wife turned off the movie in disgust!
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Chrystal Inner circle Canada/France 1552 Posts
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Chessman was that really you as Rolf? Must have been a great experience for you!
I liked the film so quess that puts me in the cool people category. Don't want to be in that other group, although gothic and alternative is okay by me, just don't want to be labled lame brained. Chrystal |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2836 Posts
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I think he said he was "in a production," not in the film.
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Chrystal Inner circle Canada/France 1552 Posts
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Thanks Mandrake,
I misread it..hope that doesn't place me in the lame brained category. :O) C |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11047 Posts
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I went to see it in 1965 or 1966, and I thought it was OK then, but 42 years later it is extremely dated. Isn't Julie Andrews as old as dirt?
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hoodrat Veteran user Southern California 384 Posts
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Here are a couple quick trivia questions about the movie version of "The Sound of Music" starring Julie Andrews. Answers are below.
Q: What was the name of Captain Von Trapp's housekeeper (she had a few spoken lines in the movie)? Q: We all know who Baroness Schrader was. What was her first name? Q: What was Uncle Max's last name? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Frau Schmidt was the housekeeper's name Elsa was Baroness Schrader's first name Detweiler was Uncle Max's last name |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts
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Al, kitsch is never outdated. Elvis will live forever, and so will captain Kirk, and so will SOM. But SOM takes kitsch to the highest level of art.
I'm pretty isolated in that I watch neither television nor contemporary Hollywood movies. My television (for which I do not even own a digital decoder, necessary where I live) is used only for DVDs. Occasionally, on vacation or at someone's house, I see what's coming out these days. Or I am loaned or given DVDs to watch. I watched the entire first season of "24" a few months ago, for example--a gift from my parents, who thought I'd like it. I hated it. I honestly don't know why I continued watching until the end. I guess I thought I was doing my parents a favor. So Al, I have this to say: if SOM is dated by the standards of "24" and Brad Pitt movies, by Hollywood action films and *serious* dramas with gun-toting Jodie Fosters, by light comedies with Whatshisname Carry or Jennifer Fillintheblank, then give me dated. Contemporary entertainment is so utterly lacking in artistic value or integrity that I am in awe of its success. Pure Charlatanism. Not just that--it's in astonishingly bad taste. Give me a movie like "Charade" and I am quite happy. Dated...? Kitschy...? Yes. Quality entertainment? Yes. And that's what counts. Besides, ya gotta love the Alps. I vacation at the foot of the Alps every year. I can't get enough of looking at them. Jeff |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5845 Posts
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I tried watching it but by major butchiness wouldn't allow me to finish it. If I'm overcome with the desire to see a musical I'll watch Paint Your Wagon.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11047 Posts
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Wait a minute, in the past two years I have seen "Rent", "Hair Spray", and "Chicago" (on Broadway) I just don't care for old time music. The whole thing takes place during WW II isn't that Archie's war?
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts
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Old time music? As in Doc Boggs or the Carter family?
Al, we are worlds apart, my friend. I never accused you of being uncultured or ignorant. Just the opposite: I'm claiming that I am uncultured and ignorant, and that I find kitsch respectful, artistic, and worth my time. You can watch "Hair Spray" 457 times, if you want. As we say in German: Geschmacksache! Love and horses, Jeff |
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Eddie Garland Inner circle Hells Kitchen, New York City 4208 Posts
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And Brigitta Von Trapp / Penny Robinson / Angela Cartwright is cool.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11047 Posts
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AHA It's a cultural thing, now I understand your fondness for the story, country side, costumes, and the whole package. My youth was more like the story line from "Hair Spray".
Thanks Al
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5845 Posts
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Al, there are two types of musical fans, boxers and bikini briefs....you and I are boxers.
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CJRichard Special user Massachusetts 542 Posts
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Thank God, Al and Santa aren't bikini briefs. . .
But I'll be Al chimes in and says he is, really. . . SOM, I think, is one of the last of the "old style" musicals, like "My Fair Lady" and "The King and I." "West Side Story" begins to move us into the modern era that includes things like "Godspell," a lot of Sondheim, "A Chorus Line," etc. as well as the much newer "Rent," "Wicked" and the like. One in a while there's still a big overblown romance like "Phantom," and we can't forget that the sun'll come out Tomorrow, but generally speaking they don't write 'em anymore the way Rodgers and Hammerstein did.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5845 Posts
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West Side Story is good because I loooooved Natalie Wood. I will admit I had great seats for live music theater but my wife caused me to miss so many of them that I gave up my seats (10th row, just right of center), when you miss 75% of the shows at $100 a round it gets bothersome. For movies I like Paint Your Wagon, if that counts as a musical, West Side Story, JC Super Star, and that is all my poor brain can recall. Does Xanadu ever run? That was a disaster, saw it in the theater....oh, Grease is one I can't not watch.
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Eddie Garland Inner circle Hells Kitchen, New York City 4208 Posts
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Xanadu is on Broadway
http://xanaduonbroadway.com/index2.html I saw Spring Awakening in July...liked it! Expect a film. http://www.springawakening.com/home.php Ah... but the now closed "Grey Gardens" was the rarest of treats! Show is going to London...Christine Ebersole's performance is worth whatever flight it takes to see her. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4yUJFpkHiY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDS8tkdT_-E |
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