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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
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On 2007-11-10 05:32, patrick66 wrote: Are you saying that when your back is turned while the mixing process is taking place, if someone wants to mess up the routine, they can't without you knowing about it when you turn round again to face them?
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matthewmello Special user 786 Posts |
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On 2007-11-11 20:52, Jon Allen wrote: If they decide to mess around with anything while you are facing away YOU WILL KNOW. If you own the DVD you will know why. If you are still unsure...send me a PM. Matthew Mello |
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matthewmello Special user 786 Posts |
Arnon, I showed this to very well-known magicians/mentalists...and they hadn't seen the method before. If you look at the people who I quoted....you will see some of the names. Oh and did I mention I showed this method to Banachek before releasing? He even said it was clever.
I have not heard back from Kenton yet. The routines are solid and I stand by them. I hope you enjoy what I feel are very powerful pieces of magic. Feel free to build routines of your own as that is how magic grows. Matthew Mello |
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KMan1564 Loyal user 228 Posts |
Arnon,
Many methods have been revamped for modern use, and sorry but I'm not going to go through that exhaustive list for you. You'll just have to trust my credibility. And many of these other effects have also lacked crediting where the method originated...so why are you harping so thoroughly about Instinct? So you've been using the method behind Instinct for years, but you were never entrepreneuristic enough to market the method. Is this why you show such dislike towards Matthew's effect? Because you now realize that it could have been you in his shoes. And also, all you're telling me when you're saying you used the Instinct principle when auditioning for Phenomenon is that the principle behind Matthew's effect works well. It's ridiculous for you to think Matthew can credit every single person who was relevant to his effects. Methods date back to extended periods of time. You should know this Arnon, you seem like a smart guy. ****, everything relates back to Tarbell...and I'm sure many principles precede even those books. BTW, since you love talking down to people who don't credit correctly, go see the Trans-fixed thread so you can hound Justin for not crediting either. But that situation is another beast of its own. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME...what matters are people's actions when they find out. Way to blame Matthew using the youth and lack of maturity card. If Matthew was immature, he wouldn't have handled himself the way he has in this thread. He has given you respect and has even e-mailed Kenton to see where he got the principle from. The only way you can dig up where a principle originated is starting somewhere and working backwards. Matthew now has a starting point by him contacting Kenton. Thanks for that tidbit of information Arnon. I know nothing of the PM, so I can't speak in regards to that. I'm sorry to hear that you knew of the principles in Instinct, Arnon. When I release an effect, I'll make sure to inform you beforehand as to the methodology so that you won't be personally disappointed. If you fail to understand that Matthew contacting Kenton is a starting point to him giving credit to his BONUS effect Impulse, then I shall let you wallow in your own bliss.
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matthewmello Special user 786 Posts |
Thanks for all your support everyone..glad you're enjoying INSTINCT.
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Jon Allen V.I.P. England 1771 Posts |
Not wishing to be pedantic but INSTINCT is not Matthew's *effect*. The effect is of having a nail hidden under on of several identical cups and smashing the 'safe' one's thus avoiding the nail. This effect already exists. The routine can be done with other objects but this is also an effect that already exists. INSTINCT is Matthew's routine & method for an existing effect.
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KMan1564 Loyal user 228 Posts |
Very true Jon. I apologize for using the wrong terminology.
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
Mr. Mello:
Congrats on getting my posts deleted a second time. Were the credits on your DVD deleted too? Jon: Instinct is NOT Mr. Mello's method either - only in connection with the RR effect. Tell me you're not familiar with this method as used by Larry Becker and a host of others in other effects. Please note that I am not saying that Mr. Mello could not have discovered the method independently, especially considering his apparent unfamiliarity with mentalism methods generally. I've spent my time writing this post only to register the unfair censorship by this forum in this instance. |
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
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On 2007-11-15 17:00, KMan1564 wrote: You even stole my line from the post that the INSTINCT gang got deleted. Congrats again for successfully getting away with plagiarism without credit - I guess I should be flattered by your imitation. Sayonara. |
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matthewmello Special user 786 Posts |
Later.
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smacks183 Loyal user 245 Posts |
I have a question and please forgive me if this has been answered. I keep reading that everything CAN be borrowed. Does that mean that the cups can always be borrowed? Or can they only be borrowed if the spectator has certain types of cups on them? If the later is true, that really takes away from the impromptu nature of this trick. If this trick works with a variety or paper, plastic, styrofoam cups, then great. But, if you can only borrow a limited type of cup, the ad type is quite misleading.
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matthewmello Special user 786 Posts |
I have done this with plastic cups/stryrophoam cups...never tried paper cups. I wouldn't do the NAIL version with the plastic cups...but one of the extras would be fine. You aren't limited if you are doing the extra versions. They can be done anytime...anywhere. The nail version....you need to make a base that fits to the cup. So, if the cups are the wrong size...you won't be able to do it. I personally wouldn't even recommend just picking up cups and performing. You want to make sure you are gonna be safe...so I always check everything before I perform anyways.
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
All of my prior posts on this thread, whether deleted or not, have now been substantiated by Jheff of the "Marketplace of the Mind" Newletter which I received only five hours ago via email!
You can read it in full at http://www.marketplaceofthemind.com/Instinct.html Jheff stated in his review of Instinct that: Quote:
With Instinct, the principle is everything. I didn't find Beyond Jheff's review: 1. The fact is, the principle has been used by other top performers besides Docc. 2. The principle behind the bonus effect Impulse was published at least 10 years ago. 3. Mr. Mello failed to credit anyone for anything on his DVD. Vindication is so sweet. Maybe now you'll correct your errors, instead of arguing with me and having your crony BRodgers PM me also with buIIshlt. This is not a minor indiscretion on your part. Sayonara once again, Mr. Mello. P.S. patrick66: It's not about ego, it's about ethics and tradition in our art. P.P.S. acesover: Now you can see that there were no "axes to grind." I find it just "ducky" that your unwarranted suspicions were "quacked." P.P.P.S. KMan1564: You are simply wrong the way you view crediting. |
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KMan1564 Loyal user 228 Posts |
I'm wrong in that you have to start somewhere and then work backwards to find out who to credit? Wow, I guess you're less intelligent that I had previously thought. I guess you failing to understand the last sentence in my previous post also demonstrates your inability to piece a puzzle together.
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
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On 2007-11-18 01:42, KMan1564 wrote: I had PM'd Mr. Mello long ago that the principle to Impulse was on the Desert Brainstorm Series, Volume 2, presented by Kenton Knepper as "The Five-Bill Miracle" and expected him to buy it and watch it... but NO, he claims to have emailed KK instead. I guess that was the shortest distance between 2 points, eh? And still no word on this from Mr. Mello. Need I address your 2 insults that followed your flawed thinking? By the way, who are you behind your nick, or must you hide? |
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KMan1564 Loyal user 228 Posts |
Sigh...learn to read....it really is fundamental.
"I know nothing of the PM, so I can't speak in regards to that." I didn't realize having a nickname should be equated to "hiding." To appease you, my name is Koby.
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KMan1564 Loyal user 228 Posts |
"Sayonara."
sa·yo·na·ra –interjection, noun farewell; good-bye. Can't even stand by your own words?
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matthewmello Special user 786 Posts |
Arnon,
I am really getting tierd of repeatedly going over this with you. The principle has been used before...good job pointing that out to me...I applied it to a different effect. Why isn't the guy who created the double-lift getting credited left and right? Impulse...the principle has been used before...I once again applied it to a different effect. I didn't credit because I didn't know...I created both things independently. I'm sure every mentalist MUST own The Desert Brainstorm Series. I should of KNOWN a method I used would be on there. You continue to say I CLAIMED to email Kenton. And this simply show's your ignorance. So, I forwarded you the email I sent to Kenton...date and all. SAYONARA....Hopefully for the last time. Matthew Mello |
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
Your email received today:
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On Nov 18, 2007 9:56 AM, <mtricks16@aol.com> wrote: My reply: Quote:
KMan1564: I do stand by Sayonara, and who cares what your first name is? Who are you? (Last name, geographical location, occupation, performing venue, credentials? "Sayonara" originally means: "Thus if it be, indeed." [Japanese saynara : say, thus (sa, that + y, appearance from Middle Chinese jiang) + nara, if it be, indeed.] See: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sayonara |
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matthewmello Special user 786 Posts |
Right...well thanks for leading me on a wild goose chase then. It would of been WAY to difficult to just tell me who created it OUTRIGHT.
And...WHO ARE YOU? You are seriously the most pompus, egotistical, and disrespectful person I've ever had the displeasure of talking to. I don't know HOW you could possibly have a reputation on these forums. You seem like a clown in every other post you make. Your a lawyer...so I assume you will come back with an argument...but I'm so sick of you I don't want to hear it. Nor will I read it. You continue to press the issue about your posts being deleted. But, they are only being deleted because you are going about things all the wrong way. Posts can't be deleted for nothing. I'm done....I will no longer come onto this thread. If you have any questions about Instinct feel free to PM me or email me at mtricks16@aol.com Sayonara...and I will acctually stick with it. Matthew Mello |
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