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John McCormack
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Hello,

Is there a resource for an effect like this, perhaps in the Tarbell's or other popular book?
Could you please say what the effect is, if it differs slightly, and is there any additional props, devices or gimmicks?

Take it easy,

John.
Wesley
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It's interesting how most of us professional magicians know the effect is achieved but haven't responded.
Harry Murphy
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Perhaps it is because the question has been discussed before. The pros and cons of several different versions were discussed at length, including reel based and reel-less types of ring flights. I think that a search for “Ring Flight” will produce the answers you are looking for.
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Wesley
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I use iMAKulate ring flight.
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On 2003-02-16 20:14, Wesley wrote:
Its interesting how most of us professional magicians know the effect is achieved but haven't responded.


And how do we know you are a professional magician?

BTW, does being a professional (if you are one) instantly make you better than an amature? A professional is someone who simply makes their living performing magic, it doesn't mean that they are particularly good, and it doesn't mean they posess more skill or passion for magic than an amature. People seem to forget the meaning of the word "amature", when some one says "Your an amature" in any field of endavour it doesn't mean anything, it means this person just doesn't make their money from performing magic.

Prehaps I don't want to make money from magic? Maybe I'm happy to study/practice/rehearse before I try to go pro?

John.

p. S. BTW I could probably come up with several ways of doing a similar effect if I put my mind to it, I wasn't asking for the secret, I wanted to know if there was a preferred method of doing this that I am unaware of.
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John,

Many working magicians have had very bad experiences with rings and gemstones and unhappy lenders of same.

Some have started doing the routine with a signed key.

You might get some good insights on the state of the art by searching on 'ring flight'. It is at least fifty years old and the 'flight' part of it has gotten so many magicians in trouble that some other methods were invented where the ring does not go flying. Smile -Jonathan
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Harry Murphy
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OK, so now to answer your question! As mentioned above, there are literally dozens of marketed versions of the Ring Flight effect. I believe that you realize that this effect is in two parts. First the vanish, then (after some time misdirection) the discovery on a key ring of some kind. Some of the solutions to the problem are clever mechanical marvels (see Rinky Dink, the Immaculate Ring Flight, Power Ring Flight) and others low Tec (Stewards “Ring Thing”, Gaeton Bloom “ or Vanni Bossi’s “Flying Ring”). The dirty work in ALL the versions is done in less than the 30 seconds you required (but what is the rush?).

As to the version that I think is best. I think it depends on your performing style and if you have a strong routine to support the gimmick. The effect is basically the same. Ring vanishes and reappears with your keys. (Or transposes with your car/house key). All the gimmicks work to a greater or lesser degree. All take practice, skill, a good routine and a clear presentation style.

I don’t particularly like the mechanical-gizmo-based ‘Ring Flight’. Mechanical ring flights do have a tendency to break when you need them the most. This is true especially if you are a working magician and performing the effect regularly (say three or four times a night several nights a week).

I have one of the best reel versions made; it has a locking gizmo and it has only failed me in performance once or twice (but was only used for about fifty performances). That said I haven’t used it in more than 20 years. I moved away from the gizmo-based version because of an accident that a friend of mine had. He damaged an expensive ring. Enough said!

My first nonmechanical-nongizmo-based version was purchased from Supreme Magic in England (over 20 years ago now). It was called “Ringon Ringon” and used a snap closed key case. It was very cleverly gimmicked and had a strong routine. I still use the routine and still have the gimmicked key case.

Another that is available that uses the same kind of key case, but is gimmicked in a totally different way (actually an easier gimmick to use than the Ringon Ringon), is “Gone With The Ring”. It is a very low-tech gimmick. Cost is about $15.00 from Magic Smith. It is very direct and very easy to use.

Presently, I use the Jeff Stewart idea of a gimmicked key ring that accepts a finger ring almost instantly (put your hand in your pocket to take out your key ring, take it out and there is the finger ring! It’s that fast! Jeff calls his version the “Ring Thing” and it costs a big $10.00 from Meir Yedid! Meir’s web site is http://www.mymagic.com
I carry my car key on this ring so I am ready to perform the effect anywhere anytime!

Two interesting Ring Flight kind of ideas that get away from the key case or key ring is Richard Sanders “On Foot” (Ring to Shoe Lace, $20.00 Magic Smith) and “My Ring Collection” (a very cool ring to safety pin amongst a whole set of safety-pinned rings on a piece of red cloth which is pinned inside your jacket! Whew, did you get that? All for $15.00 from Magic Smith).

Steve Dusheck marketed a couple of different versions years ago that were different and reel-less (one the key was actually found on a key chain, the ball type of chain). Bob Solari has an interesting reel-less ring flight. Of course there is Gaeton Bloom’s version (but use the Mike Close routine Not the weak routine that comes with the prop).

Ok, that is more than you ever wanted to know about the reel-less Ring Flight. I am offering this to get you thinking about alternatives to a fairly expensive prop (an not very contemporary looking) prop. I am only suggesting that the effect may be had by other less mechanical means.

Understand that I started performing Ring Flight with a Viking "Power Ring Flight" over 15 years ago. I still have it and it still works. However, it has jammed on me at least twice and I have had to take apart the mechanism to do some minor tune up at least once. I used it regularly for about 5 years before putting it aside. I prefer a non-mechanical version because I don’t trust the mechanical gimmick to work all the time. There is a post here on the Café that one performer’s “Rinkey-Dink” broke after only a week. I don’t know how many performances that was, but it demonstrates my point.

The second thing I don’t like about the mechanical versions was the fact that I had to hide “a something” that does the “dirty work”. While not impossible or even that difficult it is just an extra pain.

And the third thing I don’t like was all the stories of damaged rings from being whipped around the body at the speed of sound! (OK, OK, I exaggerate! It never happened to me but I thought about the issue a lot!).

Finally, I don’t like the fat, almost wallet-like, key case.

All of which is why I tend to use the Jeff Stewart “Ring Thing”. It can be found at:
http://www.mymagic.com/stewart.html
it only costs $10.00 USD! I carry “Ring Thing” with me daily. It has my car key on it. I use it to perform Ring Flight “impromptu” with just a little "get ready". I recommend this version.

However, the unit I use as a performance piece in my stand-up act is based on Mike Close’s handling of Gaeton Blooms “Flying Ring”. Gaeton Bloom’s version uses a leather, pinch open, single key pouch thing. No moving parts. The routine involves two spectators and plays big. If you go with this version, then get the Mike Close “Workers” tape or book (Workers #5) that addresses it. It will be worth the investment. Strongly recommended.
Finally (there’s more?) check out Café member Doug Atkinson’s web site. He has a list of most, if not all Ring Flight available, a brief description, where to get them and how much they cost. His site is at: http://magicref.tripod.com/magref/magring.htm
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I've never experienced a mechanical gimmick failure. However, horry stories (many posted here) of dropped or damaged rings coupled with a wonder-struck spectator's reaction: "Hmmmm..you know that's a $9,000.00 ring you just vanished", caused me to leave the darn thing in a drawer.

I just don't want to deal with the possibility of a damaged, dropped, or lost ring.

Always looking forward to your posts,

Randy Stewart
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To be safe, the best bet is to borrow a "man's wedding band" no stone... but easily identified.

I used to do the original "Flying Ring" -- which used a HUGE reel in your pocket. No keycase... the ring would vanish from your right hand and almost instantly appear on a selected finger of your left hand.

You had left hand in your pocket, ring was "whipped" by the strong reel to your left pocket and came off the special clip automatically, you slipped it onto the chosen finger and voila... a miracle.

I think it was a Willman (German) unit I had.
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Harry,
Just wanted to say thanks for the great post. Crystal clear and very informative on a topic I am looking into.

Cheers mate.
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For the last few months I had been using a Ring Box from MAK Magic (looks like a small treasure chest with a lock). I have had great success with it. But hearing about this Ring Thing from Jeff Stewart has made me realize, I don't have to carry a bulky box in my pocket. Smile Harry, how durable is your Ring Thing?
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Borrow a ring. Hold in left hand. Cover left hand with handkerchief. Gesture around left hand asking someone to hold your wrist "so the ring can't get out" -- as you gestured, ala vanish with Vernon wand spin, ring drops into right hand.

Reach into pocket and get Steve Dusheck's "RINGED" loading ring onto loop.

Sell it, get applause!

Fast. No reel or thread to worry about breaking...and it re-sets instantly. Smile
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I like Mike Close's ideas for his Ring Flight.
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Nobody has yet mentioned "The Morelli Ring", which is manufactured by Collector's Workshop! No keycase, no worry about what ring you can borrow and the spectators can handle the gimmick and remove the ring by themselves. Very clean! Very ordinary looking gimmick, which just about everyone has!

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I am probably one of the only people who ever got into trouble before using my Ring Flight.

I was in the middle of a performance, and this was a particularly receptive group. They had seen me return a watch to another table, and so after a few card rotuines and such, I asked to borrow a ring.

The woman to my left started to take off some particular ring, when she realized it wasn't there. Now I knew for a fact I had done nothing, but she swore up and down that I had salted it away and right off of her finger.

I had to make an impassioned statement (out of character, such as it is) to explain that I do not steal rings, and that it's nearly impossible.

She finally dug around in her purse, after sufficient accusation, and found her ring. I said "have a nice evening" and left the table, before she started blaming me for something else--like placing sufficient amounts of cholesterol in her bloodstream, or cultivating her addicition to Big Macs.
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Bought my ring flight off Daryl years ago when he was selling the Sylvester the Jester sparking gimmick with it. Basic zippered leather pouch and reel... Only once has the ring flown off and scooted across the floor, a niteclub no less with the hook attached... It was for the sponsor and the club was just about to open the doors... Sweat... you bet. Still use it though and ater 7 years... no probs. Must just be lucky.
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Have you thought of Mark Leveridge's ring flight, fast and nothing to hide.
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I've had my "Ringer" from Steve Dusheck for over 20 years...No reel, easy on and can be used as a regular key holder.
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Just don't use a ring with a stone. The claws on a ring become worn with age and you are just asking for trouble.
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Hmmm...since SO MANY magicians do this, why should you?
Why not do one of the 1000's of great tricks that nearly no one is doing, read Stanyon's "MAGIC" or the old magazines.
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