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gabelson Inner circle conscientious observer 2137 Posts |
DJM-
Agreed, but it was out of character for Carson to "show someone up", whether he thought Geller to be a fraud, or not. There's a reason America invited him into their living room and bedroom every night, and it certainly wasn't because he was a bully. On the contrary, Johnny was one of the most endearing individuals in the history of television. So one is left to conclude he had a beef, (likely as a fellow-magician), agree with Carson's tactics or not. As far as Letterman, I was Dave's head monologue writer for over four years, and I can tell you that Dave is far from a bully, no matter what you might think. He is a man of character. During the Marv Albert scandal, Letterman refused to make jokes about Marv, as he thought it "bad form". Before the Michael Jackson trial, he refused to make child molestation jokes (when every other late night host did), as he believed a person truly WAS innocent until proven guilty... except for O.J. (I think everyone gets a free pass on that one.) I thought the Paris Hilton interview was absolutely brilliant. Here was one of the most entertaining late night interviews since... since Dave intervied Farah Fawcett. How entertaining do you think interviews of those two ladies would be if conducted by ANY other late night host? Dave, although asking Paris about prison, was still gallant in his own curmudgeonly way. You may call it an "ambush interview", but when you go on Letterman, you've got to expect theatrics. If you can't take the heat... He's going to do what he can to make an interview COMPELLING. Paris Hilton is famous for the sake of fame. She thrives on scandal. This is the highest-profile interview Letterman has done in some time; even people who missed the initial airing have now seen the interview. It can only help poor, defenseless Paris. |
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brainchild Loyal user Ideological Bigot 259 Posts |
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On 2007-10-23 02:35, DJM wrote: Sign #837 that a thread is getting out of control: People begin to defend Paris Hilton. |
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DJM Inner circle Israel 1681 Posts |
Gabelson, I love Dave, I don't think he's a bully at all. But I had a feeling he took it a bit too far with the Paris interview, and continued all those questions even though you could see on her face she was about to cry. That was a bit uncomfortable to watch. This kind of comedy usually works for him with other guests, but this time it was just ackward. Maybe he was expecting her to play along, instead of just sitting there like the idiot that she is.
Brainchild, I'm a big fan of Paris. I got all her home videos. |
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gabelson Inner circle conscientious observer 2137 Posts |
As I inferred, if Paris' "people" are smart, they'll get her back on Letterman asap. The numbers will go through the roof... and so will Paris' personal appearance fees. -Hey, maybe she's NOT an idiot? -NAAHHHHH!!!
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
My objection to Jim's Carson remarks wasn't based so much upon the sentiment expressed (although beginning his post with: "Who cares what Carson would say?" does seem like bashing to me). My objection was primarily with regard to Jim's characterizing his remark about Carson wishing he could do what Geller did as, in Jim's own words, "the truth".
He's now saying that it was just his opinion. Perhaps he should think BEFORE he writes, and write what he means. Carson stated many times his negative opinions of Geller and others, such as Peter Popoff and Ted Serios. He also told Kreskin that if he ever came on the show and claimed psychic abilities he'd expose him and never have him back. Kreskin was on the show many times. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
...someone thinks this thread is out of control...?
yuk yuk Carson is a good example of how comedy skills, magician skills, well..basically entertainment skills are transferable to many different presentations. Making someone laugh in a way that lightens the soul is magic. Seriously. And for those who FINALLY figured out when J ack posts it is not the same as Jim posts... bravo!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts |
Just to clarify, for those who haven't seen Jim's post on the NBC Phenomenon Forum...
Jim DID qualify his remarks there with a note at the bottom stating that it was just his opinion. Later, in this forum he defended his remarks about Carson as a statement of truth. It's his remark here, which characterized Jim's statement about Carson 'wishing he could do what Geller did' as 'the truth', that I find objectionable. - entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
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On 2007-10-23 10:09, entity wrote: Entity/Tom: Are you and others still trying to reconcile Jim/J ack's "opinions" and "truths" as he puts them? In the so-called "flame wars" between me and Jim/J ack, I've demonstrated his self-contradictory positions numerous times. No point in continuing them. Nothing more to prove about him. Isn't it obvious by now that Jim/J ack espouses, when convenient to him, his own flavor of "subjective realism"? And that "consistency" in his mind is the hobgoblin of everyone else's smaller minds? I say, allow the Tao to unfold. Arnon |
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Drewmcadam Inner circle Scotland 1239 Posts |
T - a - o
It's unfolded! |
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HollyMental Elite user OR 423 Posts |
Since it’s so close to show time, I thought I’d drop one final line and wish the contestants the best.
I’m excited to see what the performers will do to separate themselves one from the other and keep things fresh. As far as I’m concerned, you’re all winners already. This challenge is sure to help you improve as performers. I don’t see how it can’t. And it’s going to give you a lot of publicity and opportunities you might never have received otherwise. I wish you all the best and hope you’re all able to take advantage of the opportunities that arise from this experience and parlay them into further success. I will definitely watch and will definitely vote. All the best. Holly
The devil can advocate for himself.
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Bob Baker Inner circle 1111 Posts |
From one of the participants, here are tomorrow night's performers: Jim Carol, Eran Raven, Ehud Segev, Gerry McCambridge.
Four will perform; two will be voted off. Bob |
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DT3 Inner circle Hill Valley 1920 Posts |
I haven't read the 17 pages on this but am I wrong in thinking our "art" and this "venue" don't quite raggety ann and andy?
D. |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
I feel that Jim Karol is the strongest performer among these four..... Hands Down!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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brainchild Loyal user Ideological Bigot 259 Posts |
I hope Paris Hilton wins.
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DT3 Inner circle Hill Valley 1920 Posts |
Go Tampa!
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Excellent Jim J ack will be for Halloween - as it should be!
Awoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
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On 2007-10-23 16:14, Drewmcadam wrote: And will continue to unfold... and the beat goes on. |
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JohnEBlaze New user Maitland, FL 66 Posts |
Wow, two of those four right off the bat? That means there will only be eight left for the two hour Halloween special!
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts |
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On 2007-10-23 18:08, Dr Spektor wrote: Yes Doctor, as I believe you know, the Tao always unfolds as it should. |
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Oyama Inner circle Portland, OR. 1054 Posts |
Anyone know what time this comes on? I have Dish network and it shows that preseason Basketball or something is coming on at the time I expected it to come on. Maybe I am looking at the wrong channel?
"it's better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand years as a lamb."
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