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Very lukewarm – I am somewhat disappointed. I didn’t like how Criss felt obligated to shoot down the talent and blame the NBC producers that he has to be “Brutally honest”.

I also sat up in my chair when Criss used a “Magic” buzzword. (PK anyone?)

Was it only me or did the body language of Uri and Criss just say – We hate each other – We don’t want to be here? (Rachel Hunter pretty much sent the latter message).

The 3rd act, in my opinion, was the best of the hour and Criss had no problem but to elude to his accomplishments. “Yeah – that was good, but not as good as me.”

I have a large show Thursday night at the Screen Writers Expo in Los Angeles. (I need to find a bear trap, 6 nails guns and a Playboy playmate quick!)
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What the ****!?!

I googled “PK Touch” and got Ellusionist’s website. Who are these guys kidding? They're acting like they started the “Phenomonon”

What really bothers me is that they have a headline, “Learn Pheonomen Secrets” What's really disappointing is that Mr. Criss Angel told America what keywords to google on National Television!

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On 2007-10-25 02:31, DerZauberer wrote:
The 3rd act, in my opinion, was the best of the hour and Criss had no problem but to elude to his accomplishments. “Yeah – that was good, but not as good as me.”



This made me see red!! When Criss said that HIS Russian Roulette was, in effect, better and more dangerous, I wanted to choke him through the TV screen. Now THERE'S a pk effect, eh? Or is it "remote viewing"? In either case, I don't know the exact MO of either Criss' or Eran's effects, but I am ***ed sure Criss takes a lot more safety precautions in his version. A good friend of ours who is doing the show, said the staff was mortified in rehearsal when Eran did a run-through of the nail gun piece. Criss has to come down off his high horse. I do feel, however, that Uri is being very respectful not only of the contestants, but of the art, as well.
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I watched the show with 3 laymen friends. As expected, they hated it, thought it was painful to watch and were laughing throughout.

As previously mentioned the show is quite flawed. Not only because they are given such limited time to perform a mentalism piece (which doesn't make sense, no connection possible), and not only because of the judges voting. The whole intro to each sequence and the performers and judges were so canned it was painful. I think this is why my friends and myself disliked the show so much.

The whole thing was ridiculous. The intros were nicely filmed, but the stories and over-the-topness, please, that is just ridiculous and comedic. Again, performing live, on camera and in front of a stage audience at the same time is difficult, especially for people not used to appearing on camera. There is a reason David Letterman, Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, etc, are famous and have nightly shows. They have been trained in this regard and it shows.

I am not going to bash the performers, I thought they did an adequate job considering the situation they were thrown in, but unfortunately for them, my lay friends who don't realize that it takes more than 3 minutes to build rapport and for that to work, don't understand that. The mentalism looks bland, unbelievable and their acting very fake.

I found the show more funny to watch than anything, and only having 4 performers in an hour is mindboggling. They only did one effect each (all of which were not overly impressive), and then there was half an hour of introductions and the judges talking.

And Uri Gellar's piece, please. Not only did the effect not work out at all (28%, are you kidding me???), but it was a 5 minute piece of atrocious acting. I can now see why there haven't been any American Idol type competions with magic or mentalism, because honestly, most of us (and I am sure I am among these people), don't play well to the TV audience in these situations with a studio audience. I thought all of the performances would have been better if I was seeing them live, and they weren't worried about the whole TV thing, but watching on TV, the acting (again, I have a feeling NBC requested this), was honestly laughable.

I think it is clear that this style of show does not work, and Uri Gellar and Criss Angel are painful as judges to watch. Honestly, if people think these mentalists played well for the camera, I suggest looking at top-notch actors and actresses. I am sure each of these performers are extroadinary in their live settings, and their more natural environments, but it looked like a B-Rate movie performance.

I apologize if this sounds harsh, but I say the same thing for films and movies with actors who act the same way in those. Do you think Denzel Washington, or Russel Crowe, or Ian MacAllen would put on a powerful dramatic performance like that?

I wish these performers the best of luck and they are certainly more talented than me, but the show now appears to be doomed to failure because the format and the setup were so ridiculous it was comedic. My lay friends were s***-talking the whole time, and it was boring, boring, boring. This show is going to be lucky to make it through all six weeks.

I wish there were more shows like Derren Brown's Mind Control. Best wishes to all the contenstants and I apologize that you guys got screwed by NBC.
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Gabe or someone in the industry - Is it true that the show will HAVE to last to the bitter end, since a prize of $250,000 has been promised, and NBC has committed itself?
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WOW.... that was the most amazing display of psychic powers I have ever seen - did chris bring his stooges? - Give me a break, was that for real???
I was disappointed to say the least, but in a way glad because that show was so boring hopefully no-one will tune in next week, yawn... it being Halloween, I don't think they will.
There are many reasons why I don't like Cris Gangel and this just adds one more to the list. He's worse than the masked magician with all his exposure of our methods strewn across cyber-space. Terrible haircut, jewelry, accent and persona. I need to go shower... yuck...
The performers, well their performances speak for themselves I think, and you guys can back them up with all the excuses you want but... The performances still speak for themselves.

Ehud - Nice touch routine.

Jim Carol - The jackass boys have already done this one - for real - and the psychic revelation just didn't fit, it was silly.

Eran Raven - reminded me I had a shelf to put up.

T H E Mentalist - LOL... This just looked rigged and set up from the beggining, I actually had high hopes for this guy, he looked the part, but alas, yawn...

Look forward to next week though, I know it will be better... well it can't be any worse... can it???

I too feel like a fool now for telling everyone to watch it, I will see tomorrow what they thought of the show, those who could tear themselves away from 'kid nation' I Tvoed it anyway...
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I am looking forward to Guy Bavli and Angela Funovits to perform next week. It will be interesting to see how harsh Chris is on a female.


Angela Funovits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00yi2kJDjOk
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Now isn't that the secret fantasy of every card worker? Smile


I watched the show and thought the whole time: Common Criss... don't try to come by as the master of masters. Too much for me.
Uri was engaging, professional and nice. The experiment didn't really work but allright, it was the first episode.

Poor Gerry, he's in the business for years now and has to hear from a magician like Angel what mentalism is all about.
I don't even want to think about what Criss will tell Mr. Callahan, especially because of the claims Callahan makes.

Sorry if this sounds like a rant, it's just mho.
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Does anybody if there is anywhere you can see the episode on the web yet?


thanks

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Eran should have said back to Criss after his 'my routine is better' remark:
- ' Yes, but my routine is performed LIVE with no video editing and stooges involved, B*tch'
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It started well by the looks of this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Mc55P1i9g
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On 2007-10-25 02:44, gabelson wrote:
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On 2007-10-25 02:31, DerZauberer wrote:
The 3rd act, in my opinion, was the best of the hour and Criss had no problem but to elude to his accomplishments. “Yeah – that was good, but not as good as me.”



This made me see red!! When Criss said that HIS Russian Roulette was, in effect, better and more dangerous, I wanted to choke him through the TV screen. Now THERE'S a pk effect, eh? Or is it "remote viewing"? In either case, I don't know the exact MO of either Criss' or Eran's effects, but I am ***ed sure Criss takes a lot more safety precautions in his version. A good friend of ours who is doing the show, said the staff was mortified in rehearsal when Eran did a run-through of the nail gun piece. Criss has to come down off his high horse. I do feel, however, that Uri is being very respectful not only of the contestants, but of the art, as well.


I agree! I nearly gagged when Criss said, "I performed the ""ultimate"" version of this". Criss may have some humility but he keeps it hidden well.

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On 2007-10-25 06:14, salsa_dancer wrote:
It started well by the looks of this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Mc55P1i9g



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On 2007-10-25 05:36, fishwasher wrote:
Does anybody if there is anywhere you can see the episode on the web yet?
Aidan Smile


It's not up yet, but it should be available here soon:

http://tinyurl.com/3xueh9
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Thanks Smile
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Im a little confused, we voted last night. So, will one be voted off next week after tallying last nights votes?
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My personal opinion - It is very difficult to perform entertaining mentalism on TV. This show is demonstrates this viewpoint.

One element of a good mentalism act is a unifying theme to connect the routines and maintain the audience's interest. There was no unifying theme ... nothing to connect one contestant to the others. Just four random routines that were "average" in their impact.

Another important element of entertaining mentalism is displaying a likable personality. None of the contestants had the time to connect with their audience. Very sterile.

I would love to know why Geller disliked Gerry so much. There must be a good "back-story". Anyone have info on this. Gerry looked very uncomfortable for a person with his years of experience.

The Russian Roulette routine was the best television ... but from my perspective it was more of a "stunt" more than classic mentalism. This performer will move on ... but can he do more? Again, one of the judges does stunts as well as mentalism.

I would put my money on the show not making it to the end of the series.

Will it help or hurt mentalism overall? I don't know ... but I suspect the series will be quickly forgotten by the general public.

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Perphaps this has been discussed but a couple of things strike me as interesting;

1. Uri is frequently referred to as a mentalist
2. Angel claims he will expose anyone who claims to have genuine powers. does that include uri?

Apologies if this has been discussed - this thread is so darn long now.
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I have just seen the show and Like the fact that it is live and no camera edits etc. Wonder how laypeople think of the show. After all the TV mentalism they have seen before, some of the acts might be too "simple" in their eyes.

I do agree with RickDangerous in the way Criss was judging some of the performers. That was quite harsh, although I do agree with the general judgement of Criss. The beartrap I found really strange. Nothing was explained on why he wants to set his arm in a beartrap to transfer the name to him. The best one presentation wise was the Russian roulette, with the PK touch routine on second place.

Wondering how harsh Jim will be commented by Criss... Good luck
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