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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts 
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The answer would be, if they bought say Osterlind's instruction DVD, where he teaches the watch routine, no permission would be needed to perform this. No rights were withheld or performance stipulations made, purchasing the DVD would give the performance rights to the purchaser. It can be argues that it may not be the most "creative" thing to do, but there is nothing wrong with it.
Let's try to keep specifics out of the thread, just in case... We don't want to be an information source for those looking to replicate what they see on TV. |
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burst Veteran user Memphis, TN 308 Posts
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It depends on the creator of said effects. Some creators add to their work that if it is to be used on TV that permission is needed, others publish without that. I don't really understand the mentality of publishing something for others to use and then setting restrictions upon that use. If you don't want it to be used, don't publish it.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18033 Posts
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There were guys at the auditions seemingly competing againts their own ideas.( Stebler for one) My first audition effect was The Blessing. I had sold a couple of copies prior to the auditions (I quit as soon as I found out that I was in) so the potential was there that I would be performing my routine AFTER someone else had....I've learned a great lesson about selling secrets
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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brainchild Loyal user Ideological Bigot 259 Posts
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On 2007-10-11 15:37, burst wrote: I understand your thoughts here and in some ways I feel the same way. Except when you consider the fact that performing one of someones original effects on nation television greatly reduces it value as an original effect for that performer. In some ways its kind of like a stand up comedian with an HBO special. After that, he can never use those jokes again. However, if the said performer allowed others to perform it every else but on television, he can continue using it as an original effect from here to eternity without his clients walking up and saying "oh yeah, that's cool I've seen that before. that's the same thing that girl did on that show with uri gellar". |
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18033 Posts
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On the other hand Criss Angel sold a WHOLE BUNCH of effects AFTER he performed them on national TV. So thearetically you could make a lot more money WITH the exposure....Maybe?
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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brainchild Loyal user Ideological Bigot 259 Posts
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True. That is a valid point and something that definitely illustrates one key difference between a magician and a comedian. I guess ultimately there are a few positives and negatives on both sides.
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4697 Posts
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If you're a talented performer, you can use someone else's effect, and infuse so much of your own style and personality into it, that it becomes unrecognizable from the original inspiration.
Professor Philemon Vanderbeck
That Creepy Magician "I use my sixth sense to create the illusion of possessing the other five." |
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Arnon Inner circle 1320 Posts
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On 2007-10-11 19:26, Philemon Vanderbeck wrote: As you did with the MPD in your unique rendition called "The Immortal" on Youtube. Arnon |
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Chris K Inner circle 2544 Posts
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So many pages, so much pointless vitriol...
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Corona Smith Inner circle Airstrip One 1689 Posts
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I hope they use mah na mah na (muppet version) as the theme tune....
'phenomenon doo doo de doo doo' Corona |
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Papa David New user 61 Posts
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Did not Limp Bizkit already do a theme song for this?
chorus: ... .don't think you know What the hell I'm all about (phenomenon, something like a phenomenon) ... .don't think you got My **** all figured out (phenomenon, something like a phenomenon) |
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Corona Smith Inner circle Airstrip One 1689 Posts
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Lacks the gravitas of the muppets...
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
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Actually, the Goblins did a great soundtrack for a Dario Argento work called Phenomena....
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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entity Inner circle Canada 5060 Posts
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Corona: 5 points for using the word Gravitas on this forum!
- entity
email: tomebaxter@icloud.com
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Eddie Garland Inner circle Hells Kitchen, New York City 4207 Posts
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Additional 3 points for using the word Gravitas in a sentence with the term muppets.
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Corona Smith Inner circle Airstrip One 1689 Posts
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I'd like to award half my points to Dr. S for teaching us the plural of phenomenons.
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Tone Elite user 423 Posts
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"Goblin", who did the soundtrack, is actually singular rather than "The Goblins".
Plural points all around for eerie Italian prog rock! And "Gravitas" is the plural of "Gravity"? 
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brainchild Loyal user Ideological Bigot 259 Posts
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On 2007-10-11 19:55, Papa David wrote: "Something like a phenomenon" is a classic old-school hip hop lyric. I believe it was originally put onto wax with Grandmaster Flashes record 'White Lines', was actually spit by Grandmaster Melle Mel and the Furious Five, and sampled from the band Liquid Liquid. A lot of hip hop heads have used it like LL Cool J, but other bands, even the Yeah Yeah Yeah's, have used it. Limp Bizkit has never been original. |
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts
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Hmmm... the band is Goblin... but aren't the band members Goblins?
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Tone Elite user 423 Posts
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On 2007-10-12 00:26, Dr Spektor wrote: !!! :ohyes: |
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