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Danny...Ever have De'Ja Vu ?
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After all, the whole purpose of the challenge is looking for people who claim to have supernatural abbilities.


Wow. I always thought the purpose of the "challenge" was to generate publicity. At least that is how I've always seen it used. And in that context it seems a perfect fit on Jim's site.
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Wow. I always thought the purpose of the "challenge" was to generate publicity. At least that is how I've always seen it used.


Don't feel bad about it, everyone is mistaken sometimes.
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You'd know Smile
:cheers: Smile Smilearty:
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And the argument goes round and round. I can't believe anybody is not tired of it.

It's like the teacher from charlie brown, no matter what everybody says, all I hear is:

blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah
blah blah

Here is the translation, with some stuff added by me to spice it up...
"everybody experiences the paranormal"
"then isn't that just the normal"
"everybody is mistaken sometimes"
"publicity...challenge...randi...artichoke"
"what about deja vu?"
"uh, normal too, look at http://discovermagazine.com/2005/sep/psychology-of-deja-vu/ "



Good luck to everybody on the show. Personally, I am rooting for Jim but, above all else, I just hope that it is fun to be in and to watch.
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On 2007-10-15 19:34, Lemniscate wrote:

"uh, normal too, look at http://discovermagazine.com/2005/sep/psychology-of-deja-vu/ "


Thanks for the help. Smile
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Blah blah blah

just kidding, no need for thanks. the article doesn't really mean much of anything relative to the first 12 pages of the thread, but I just read it so I threw it in!
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What I do is real.

I'm really there when I'm doing it, with real people, using real items (when needed) and I'm really doing what I'm doing in the same real air we all breathe.

Want to challenge me on that?

Having said that, here's MY challenge for Randi:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=15&109

You cannot prove that what you saw was not real, yet I can prove it was, and any scientist will tell you that it was ... I was there and that pen really fell, three times!

Join me on the Phenomenon forum ... it's fun.
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On 2007-10-15 19:47, ALEXANDRE wrote:
What I do is real.

I'm really there when I'm doing it, with real people, using real items (when needed) and I'm really doing what I'm doing in the same real air we all breathe.

Want to challenge me on that?

***


Koran would be proud... and it makes perfect sense that both of you, Alexandré and Jim/J ack, would utilize a mentalist's stratagem, d*********k, to simultaneously remain "accurate" yet intend something substantially different from the more accepted meaning of your words.

Are your words "inscribed" or "engraved" in my memory now?
:lol:
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Did you actually READ that article? He puts everyone under hypnosis and then askes them if they have De'Ja'Vu....Why doesn't he just ask them if they are naked or an alien looking for food. That's what the last group of hypnotised people did when asked Smile
NO ONE HAS A SOLUTION FOR Paramnesia, as it is called in English.
They've never had a definitive answer for this.
Still haven't!
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Alexandré and Jim/J ack:

You want to prevent or exercise damage control should there be "exposure" on the Phenomenon forum at the NBC website.

Have you considered that by representing what you do as being "real," you are inviting exposure?
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...the Arch Deacon of deception plays an arpeggio on the doomsday artery...
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Alexandre - what happened? You seem to have become a version of Jim... well, I suppose you do realize he does have a great role model!

DJM - as I explained on many a threads... if you really look at Jim's webpage, his posts, etc. he has never claimed to have supernatural powers - he has also never claimed to not have them... he has stated what he does... e.g. for example, he talks to dead people... I can talk to dead people too... however, they do not talk back to me Smile...seriously, Jim has not been attacked and destroyed by debunkers as he is bulletproof based on how he has constructed his frame... he is a very interesting case example of disclaimers and claimers.


Arnon - it appers only Alexandre is doing things to prevent exposure by doing some active things on the website - it appears to me Jim is not doing anything to such an extent and is sticking to his usual motif which has served him well. The one difference between Jim's (or J ack's) claims of what is real versus Alexandres is that Jim is actually claiming a lot less in terms of what he is actually doing.. just that it is real... Alexandre, as per his posts and videos, is claiming a lot more.

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On 2007-10-15 12:50, Jim-Callahan wrote:
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On 2007-10-14 15:07, burst wrote:
Check out the "Behind the Scenes" clip and listen to what Criss says.
I wonder how him and Jim will get along.

/paul.f


Yes and you are not the only one.

-Jim

PS. All the Dead Boys send their best wishes.


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On 2007-10-15 13:35, DJM wrote:
Jim, you just need to show him proof that you have paranormal powers, and then he would not cause you any problems.. Simple as that. Smile


Jim/J ack:

The alternative is, of course, to quit your d*********k.

Otherwise, In Criss Angel's own words,
"But the minute somebody crosses the line... and says this is something beyond a trick... this is supernatural...uh, I’m just gonna bust them, right on live television...which I think is going to create an explosive show."

(From Mission Impossible) Good luck, Jim. Smile

Arnon

P.S. Dr. Spektor seems to think that your position is bullet-proofed. What if Criss Angel uses a silver bullet (or a silver bullet lite - hehe)?

P.P.S. Ever since your dinner invitation and my PM to you of my cell phone number, I have not heard from you. What's up?
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I say there should be a showdown between Criss and Jim.. one will debunk the paranormal, one will debunk camera tricks.

High ratings for sure! Smile
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Amen
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I am nothing but a version of myself.

If people choose to believe the over the top, tongue in cheek performances I have been posting on video, I'm sorry, but that's as far a disclaimer as I am willing to give concerning my abilities.

No, wait, perhaps I will start adding an additional disclaimer at the end of my performances:

DO SOME RESEARCH!

I agree with Arnon that I might be inciting something on the Phenomenon board. Maybe I will reconsider my strategy. I will certainly give it some thought, though I plan to throw people off of their paths when they attempt to reveal certain things.

I'm just having some fun with the "real" thing, and I have to admit I'm enjoying it a lot! If I only had the courage to share some of the PMs I have received.... Check out the comments on here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOypxsui4vs

People need to relax a little. I find it very entertaining, and these are the comments I didn't delete due to intense profanity and actual exposure. Oh, man....

Dr. Spektor, I may be wrong, but I haven't claimed that much that I haven't been able to prove. Everything else, like the mention of "orbs" is just fun.

Also, I hadn't read that Criss Angel quote Arnon put up. It may just be showmanship to stir things up a bit, a little contreversy to get more people talking about the show. Afterall, on the Phenomenon forum there are pictures of Criss and Uri hugging and everything.
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Hi Alexandre,

As mentioned, I look forward to your vids!

Arnon, if/when you hit Toronto, I'd be happy to go out for dinner with you!

Dr S
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ALEXANDRE- You have stated many times before that what you say is tongue and cheek. I don't think it is neccesary for you to keep doing it. It seems that some have forgotten the lost art of showmanship and presentation. Maybe they forgot the lost art of having fun. On your next demo you should state that what you are doing is fake and a lie and don't say another word. That would be a great performance! Make sure you post that it was all lies though. I guess some of us get it and others do not. Just my opinion.
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Well it has been a long long time since I have been on the Café. Can someone post the videos for this thing? Interviews etc?
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