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I haven't seen the show either. But I didn't like it either, it was too..... well, lets just say, 'American'.

Corona.
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Well, I guess it can only get better … right?

I applaud NBC for presenting the special live, yet I found the overall show difficult to watch. It seemed to lack any sense of flow. The segments were disjointed with little or no continuity. The only person who appeared to establish his personality effectively within the limited time frame was Ross, who oddly enough, made the strongest connection with the audience.

At times the back-story biographies seemed to invoke pity more than genuine interest and IMO detracted more than they added to the individual performances. It might be better to have the “contestants” use this time to respond to the judge’s comments. Air a little back stage discontent and controversy so to speak …I don’t kow. More drama is needed … and I’m not talking about a nail gun to the head or a hand in the bear trap kind.

Ultimately all the performers last night were winners and their appearance on national television will only propel their career further along regardless of how the rest of the special plays out. Good job guys.

The bottom line is … was the special entertaining?

Would you tune in next week if you had no prior interest in magic, mentalism or the personalities involved?


Steve

p.s. can’t say any more about CA that hasn’t already been said.
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Hopefully the NBC web is bombarded with a great suggestion for improving the show, namely, get rid of Criss Angel. I still can't believe he was voted magician of the year. Can magic be this hard up?
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I actually think that David Blaine would have been a much better choice than Chris Angel.

At least Blaine is somewhat humble!
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Incidentally, the shtick about the judges wanting to see things they've never seen before is just TV talk. The performers supplied the producers with their list of routines back when they auditioned, and it is the producer who chooses which performer does what material at each appearance. (At least, that was the plan when it was explained to me by a casting director.)

To Jimmy: rapid-fire mentalism might work for you. But being speedy doesn't make a performer less boring, just as telling jokes at top speed doesn't make a comedian funnier (insert your favorite string of three Steven Wright joke here, as told at 78 RPMs by Alvin and the Chipmunks). Being a performer of quick stunts can simply make the mentalist forgettable, and since there's no personality or emotional connection involved, he's easily replaceable in the audience's mind with anybody else who does similar stunts. To make a distinct impression, in my opinion, a performer needs to show a distinct personality -- something that may be impossible to do in a flashy little TV slot. How boring a presentation is does not come from its length (I've seen people hold the stage marvelously for over an hour without doing a single mentalism effect, and so have you). It comes from a lack of engagement.

Let me put this into practical performance terms, involving one of the most supposedly dramatic and unquestionably most gratuitously dangerous pieces in the repertoire: Why would anybody care whether you win or lose at Russian Roulette if they don't care at all about you?

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Danny and Luke. Great posts.
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On 2007-10-25 11:58, rowdymagi5 wrote:
I actually think that David Blaine would have been a much better choice than Chris Angel.

At least Blaine is somewhat humble!


Criss Angel talks too much. David Blaine talks too little. How about if Randi was one of the judges.
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It might be better for NBC to hold off on the performance critiques until the end of the show, while the contestants stand side by side in front of the judges. This seems much more compelling to me.

Steve
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On 2007-10-25 10:53, videokideo wrote:
And to answer a question on a couple pages back...

No, the show does not have to continue to run its full length on tv. Normally what they will do is knock off multiple players in one setting to cut down the number of weeks needed. But, there have been two reality competitions who never even made it to the final show..

Should be in the contract that your priority is to perform for exposure as it will pay off more than the prize. If all goes well, there will be a prize, but the exposure is your goal. But like I said, they usually find a way to cut the shows down. Right now, it wouldnt be hard to just have one final show where they vote on the ultimate winner.

A friend of mine works for NBC Florida called and told me this morning that they are already considering cutting the show short as ratings started ok, but slid to nothing by the end of the show. The ratings didn't meet standards promised to advertisers, and two advertisers have already pulled out as of this morning and consolidated their money on other shows. When you contract advertisers, you usually give them minimum number goals to reach in that the contract remains good. This show couldn't even reach those minimum numbers, so the advertisers do have the choice to move their funds elsewhere in programming, or have part of their money refunded to a better compensated fee to stay within this shows time slots. Fact is, this show is costing NBC money!


Absolutely....they will cut their losses in a minute. CBS cancelled Viva Lauglin after only two episodes...and what was that thing with William Shatner last season....I actually saw more of that show being made fun of then ever seeing any episodes.

The worst part is everyone here is saying the same things were wrong with the show....whats worse is all these things were pointed out and mentioned long long ago when something could have been done to structure the show better. But now the box is built...and everyone is in that box...and you can't fix the box because now your in it. If they change the format by giving more time to the next batch of contestants or telling Uri and criss to pipe down and turn off the self-promotion then it would be very unfair to the first 4 guys.

As I see it their is little they can do to make the show better... they had the chance but didn't listen and I know all 10 guys on the show brought up all these points everyone here has made weeks ago.
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I doubt that they would worry about being unfair to the first four guys......
Not if it saved their @ss Smile
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The nail gun is not rigged in any way. If you are going to throw solutions (to any of the effects) do it at least in the Inner Thoughts section.

Nimrod , Israel
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On 2007-10-25 11:53, Hoff Man wrote:

Would you tune in next week if you had no prior interest in magic, mentalism or the personalities involved?


Steve

p.s. can’t say any more about CA that hasn’t already been said.


What is interesting to me -- is that my wife actually sat across the couch from me and said...

"If I wasn't married to you -- I wouldn't watch this show again..."

Unfortunately I think a lot of people feel this way...

Let's just hope J/J gets to light a few fires before NBC puts the end to this thing...
xxx
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On 2007-10-25 01:10, Magic Spank wrote:
He didn't use the prop you're suspecting.

I'll email you.


True, he did that much better on a British TV show years ago before that 'prop' was available. The results this time were poor because the viewing audience got too little time looking at the whole line of symbols. At the time I thought Uri's application brilliant.

Great post from Luke though with comments on Criss and the different performance conditions. Whilst it may generate some work (and Gerry needn't worry he's already in Vegas anyway at Hooters Hotel and Casino)I'm certainly glad I turned the show down when the phone rang.

TV isn't everything, and with one or two exceptions has been going down hill for years. Reality is rarely what you get on reality shows.

If Criss keeps up the put downs I wonder if someone will say, "Okay Mindfreak, lets see you walk up this theatre wall or go through this sheet of glass I happened to bring along, now on live TV..."
Paul.
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Here ya go

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/53210218

some results from last nights ratings across the board...
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But you have to remember, game 1 of the World Series was being played...
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Pretty much says it all does it not?

Now let the local spin experts give it a try.
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Nimrod,

Whether the nailgun is rigged or not, is not the point. Throwing solutions is not the point either. The point is that it is a possible solution to the lay audience and therefore doesn't make that demonstration too... phenomenal.
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Gay.
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On 2007-10-25 12:49, Tony Iacoviello wrote:
But you have to remember, game 1 of the World Series was being played...


Yes,but it was only [Boston] vs Colorado....



:) just kidding Tony
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To tell the truth, I was not sure the show was even going to air in my market.
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